Linda,

> When  R3 reduces the aggregated site cost for the prefix A to a specific
topology
+
> The aggregated site cost only applies to a specific topology.

As it has been confirmed with flex-algo authors for a given prefix you can
not have different cost per topology. Each locator or prefix can only be
associated only with a single topology. That restriction does not apply to
SR-MPLS, but I don't think this is what we are discussing here.

So with that what Acee is asking seems very reasonable - to simply use base
topology and compute the reachability using combined cost (base + external)
to your anycast prefixes.

Thx,
R.



On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 4:59 PM Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Robert,
>
>
>
> Reply to your comments are inserted below:
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2022 4:18 AM
> *To:* Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Aijun Wang <[email protected]>; Acee Lindem (acee) <acee=
> [email protected]>; John E Drake <jdrake=
> [email protected]>; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>;
> Gyan Mishra <[email protected]>; lsr <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Seeking feedback to the revised
> draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute
>
>
>
> Hi Linda,
>
>
>
> *The aggregated site cost change rate is comparable with the rate of
> adding or removing application instances at locations to adapt to the
> workload distribution changes.*
>
>
>
> [RR] What Les and myself have been trying to highlight here is that the
> above model does not effectively work well in the underlay layer.
>
>
>
> The moment you adjust such cost will not really spread workload
> distribution, but shift it between servers - members of given anycast
> address.
>
>
>
> [Linda] that is exactly what the draft is proposing to do: shifting
> traffic among members of one ANYCAST address. For example, one prefix A has
> 4 instances attached to 4 different routers (R1/R2/R3/R4). The distance to
> each of the routers is D1/D2/D3/D4. Routers in 5G Local Data Networks have
> preconfigured ECMP or (weighted ECMP) to distribute traffic towards A via 4
> available paths through R1/R2/R3/R4.
>
>
>
> When  R3 reduces the aggregated site cost for the prefix A to a specific
> topology (e.g. the specific Local Data Network around Cell tower Cluster
> X),  the shortest path from routers in the Cell Tower Cluster X for the
> prefix A will be shorter via R3. There are other factors influencing the
> shortest path computation and ECMP among all paths towards the prefix A.
>
>
>
> The forwarding decision will happen at the first common P core underlay
> node from the server side and not the ingress to the network - where is
> what you would really want.
>
>
>
> [Linda] The draft is for the scenario where there are multiple common
> routers towards multiple instances of the same prefix.
>
>
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 4:52 AM Linda Dunbar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
>
>
> In the new version of the draft, we have:
>
> *“The aggregated site cost associated with a prefix (i.e., ANYCAST prefix)
> can be a value configured on the router to which the prefix is attached.
> The aggregated site cost can be computed based on an algorithm configured
> on router for specific prefixes. The detailed algorithm of computing the
> aggregated site cost is out of the scope of document. *
>
> *As the cost change can impact the path computation, there is a Minimum
> Interval for Metrics Change Advertisement which is configured on the
> routers to avoid route oscillations. Default is 30s. *
>
> *The aggregated site cost change rate is comparable with the rate of
> adding or removing application instances at locations to adapt to the
> workload distribution changes. The rate of change could be in weeks or
> days. On rare occasions, there might need rate changes in hours..”*
>
>
>
> Your comments and suggestions are greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Raszuk <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 17, 2022 5:29 AM
> *To:* Aijun Wang <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Acee Lindem (acee) <[email protected]>; Linda Dunbar <
> [email protected]>; John E Drake <jdrake=
> [email protected]>; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <[email protected]>;
> Gyan Mishra <[email protected]>; lsr <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] Seeking feedback to the revised
> draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute
>
>
>
> Aijun,
>
>
>
> Such metric will be same(because of the ANYCAST address be advertised
> simultaneously via R1/R2/R3 at the same time for one application server,
> for example, S1/aa08::4450).
>
>
>
> That is not really correct.
>
>
>
> On each router R1 or R2 or R3 when you for example redistribute or
> originate in any other way host route for example S1/aa08::4450 you can
> apply a different metric to it.
>
>
>
> That is why I keep asking what is the mechanism in which routers will be
> informed what host routes to advertise and what metric to use for each IP
> address of the server or application on the server. The most precise answer
> received so far was "it is out of scope". And that is important
> irrespective if we are talking about using passive interfaces, stub
> interfaces or simply static routes.
>
>
>
> Thx,
>
> R.
>
>
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