But its also protecting me as an open source developer isnt it?
On 09/08/2010, Reinier Battenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Actually it took until after the patent on the steam-engine expired that the > research into petrol engines went into full gear and that engine was finally > invented. So, Kyle, you are not far off. > > And Kyle did not say the US invented it, just that they are abusing it. For > example by extending the duration. Like, Walt Disney is dead & buried for > years now, but someone still owns his copyright. > > That is besides the point. Its not protecting Walt and his great effort > anymore, its just generating cash for shareholders somewhere. > > > > > -- > rgds, > > Reinier Battenberg > Director > Mountbatten Ltd. > +256 758 801 749 > www.mountbatten.net > > > > > On Monday 09 August 2010 15:00:06 Kyle Spencer wrote: > > Tim, > > > > > As I have said before, theft is the taking of someone elses property > > > without their permission, and you are not denying this is what you do. > > > > I repeat: > > > > An act of "theft" requires that someone be denied ownership, possession, > > use, or access to something as a result of the taking. > > > > Clearly the above has not happened, and therefore nobody is "stealing" > > anything even by American legal standards (the home of bad IP law). > > > > Making a copy of something != theft -- even in the US. > > > > FYI: Global IP laws, as they relate to this discussion, are generally the > > result of intense lobbying/corruption of the US legal system by large > > media distribution companies (RIAA/MPAA) who's businesses became > > irrelevant as a result of the Internet. > > > > These companies do not represent the artists, they represent factories, > > retail business relationships, and license fees which do not get passed on > > to the creative talent behind the works which they distribute. > > > > Essentially, these companies had so much money and clout that they were > > able to alter the US and, to some extent, global legal system in order to > > make their businesses artificially relevant. > > > > On a side note, I wonder what state the world would be in today if > > horse-drawn carriage manufacturers had pulled off the same stunt in order > > to make automobiles illegal. > > > > Regards, > > Kyle Spencer > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > > > As I have said before, theft is the taking of someone elses property > > > without their permission, and you are not denying this is what you do. > > > > > > You say, and I believe you that this theft is legal in this country > > > and that only in nice fluffy societies (in other words most of the > > > rest of the world) is this type of theft illegal. Surely then we > > > should be trying to make this country conform to the rest of the world > > > (BTW Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda are all signatories to the Berne > > > convention so this is most definitely illegal in those countries). > > > > > > On 9 August 2010 13:03, Badru Ntege (MPP) <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Well I repeat, let us see the evidence that the radio stations are > > > > > stealing, but again if they are it doesn't justify others in doing > > > > > it. Many people steal cars, so does that justify me taking yours? > > > > > > > > Show me a local artist with payment from any FM station for playing > > > > their music. I think evidence for payment will be better. Luck of > > > > that evidence will be affirmation of my statement. > > > > > > > > > The right point is for people to respect other peoples property, but > > > > > maybe I am wrong :-) > > > > > > > > You are not wrong but if only life was that simple, we would have this > > > > nice fluffy society where everyone loves everyone and they are no bad > > > > people at all .......etc. Ooops wakey wakey it is not that simple > > > > and that is why we have laws that are designed to protect us against > > > > each other. And in this respect the laws of the land are not > > > > sufficient which is why we need to have them modified and updated to > > > > enable us to co-exist and not stifle growth and development because > > > > some archaic law still exists and does not fit well in the changed > > > > world that we live in today. > > > > > > > > > > > > So today the musicians might not be able to get payments from the > > > > stations for their works however it promotes their work and means that > > > > they get invited to private performances that give them a good > > > > earning. Somewhere down the line the two parties have reached a > > > > compromise that works. However no express permission is given to the > > > > stations night clubs etc to play the music. Is this enough ??? No As > > > > we work towards a ugandan copyright and IPR position we need to > > > > capture some of this and draft a current law that works with the > > > > changed times. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > LUG mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > > > > > All Archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > > > (including attachments if any). 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