On 09/08/2010, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: > Tim, > > > > As I have said before, theft is the taking of someone elses property > > without their permission, and you are not denying this is what you do. > > > I repeat: > > > An act of "theft" requires that someone be denied ownership, possession, > use, or access to something > as a result of the taking. >
I repeat: Theft=The taking of something that is not yours without the perm ission of the rightful owner. we have moved on from this Bardu has accepted that it is theft, just that is is acceptable theft. > > Clearly the above has not happened, and therefore nobody is "stealing" > anything even by American legal standards (the home of bad IP law). > > Making a copy of something != theft -- even in the US. > > FYI: Global IP laws, as they relate to this discussion, are generally the > result of intense lobbying/corruption of the US legal system by large media > distribution companies (RIAA/MPAA) who's businesses became irrelevant as a > result of the Internet. :-D Copyright existed a very long time before the USA existed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law They are to blame for many things, but not copyright. > > These companies do not represent the artists, they represent factories, > retail business relationships, and license fees which do not get passed on to > the creative talent behind the works which they distribute. > > Essentially, these companies had so much money and clout that they were able > to alter the US and, to some extent, global legal system in order to make > their businesses artificially relevant. > > On a side note, I wonder what state the world would be in today if > horse-drawn carriage manufacturers had pulled off the same stunt in order to > make automobiles illegal. I think you have maybe misunderstood this thread. > > Regards, > > Kyle Spencer > Tim -- WebERP Africa Ltd +447710427049 +256752963327 +255784602561 www.weberpafrica.com _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---------------------------------------
