Tim, > As I have said before, theft is the taking of someone elses property > without their permission, and you are not denying this is what you do.
I repeat: An act of "theft" requires that someone be denied ownership, possession, use, or access to something as a result of the taking. Clearly the above has not happened, and therefore nobody is "stealing" anything even by American legal standards (the home of bad IP law). Making a copy of something != theft -- even in the US. FYI: Global IP laws, as they relate to this discussion, are generally the result of intense lobbying/corruption of the US legal system by large media distribution companies (RIAA/MPAA) who's businesses became irrelevant as a result of the Internet. These companies do not represent the artists, they represent factories, retail business relationships, and license fees which do not get passed on to the creative talent behind the works which they distribute. Essentially, these companies had so much money and clout that they were able to alter the US and, to some extent, global legal system in order to make their businesses artificially relevant. On a side note, I wonder what state the world would be in today if horse-drawn carriage manufacturers had pulled off the same stunt in order to make automobiles illegal. Regards, Kyle Spencer ----- Original message ----- > As I have said before, theft is the taking of someone elses property > without their permission, and you are not denying this is what you do. > > You say, and I believe you that this theft is legal in this country > and that only in nice fluffy societies (in other words most of the > rest of the world) is this type of theft illegal. Surely then we > should be trying to make this country conform to the rest of the world > (BTW Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda are all signatories to the Berne > convention so this is most definitely illegal in those countries). > > On 9 August 2010 13:03, Badru Ntege (MPP) <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I repeat, let us see the evidence that the radio stations are > > > stealing, but again if they are it doesn't justify others in doing > > > it. Many people steal cars, so does that justify me taking yours? > > > > > Show me a local artist with payment from any FM station for playing > > their music. I think evidence for payment will be better. Luck of > > that evidence will be affirmation of my statement. > > > > > > > > > The right point is for people to respect other peoples property, but > > > maybe I am wrong :-) > > > > > > > You are not wrong but if only life was that simple, we would have this > > nice fluffy society where everyone loves everyone and they are no bad > > people at all .......etc. Ooops wakey wakey it is not that simple > > and that is why we have laws that are designed to protect us against > > each other. And in this respect the laws of the land are not > > sufficient which is why we need to have them modified and updated to > > enable us to co-exist and not stifle growth and development because > > some archaic law still exists and does not fit well in the changed > > world that we live in today. > > > > > > So today the musicians might not be able to get payments from the > > stations for their works however it promotes their work and means that > > they get invited to private performances that give them a good > > earning. Somewhere down the line the two parties have reached a > > compromise that works. However no express permission is given to the > > stations night clubs etc to play the music. Is this enough ??? No As > > we work towards a ugandan copyright and IPR position we need to > > capture some of this and draft a current law that works with the > > changed times. > > > > regards > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > > (including attachments if any). 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