> My problem with using a CMS/framework has been the amount of bloat that > seems to come with a site written with them. I know that these days storage > and ram are cheap, but I learnt my programming when 16KB was considered > a lot of ram, and still hate to see so much waste.
Yes there is bloat, but the gain is worth it. You can trim off most of it though with effort. Some frameworks are *very* light, Code igniter for example is ~1MB, and you can trim out the stuff you won't need (Like multiple database support for example). If you implement an average site, your code could come close to that, or be more. The pros outweigh the cons. And that comes with all functions already pre-written for most of the tasks you'll need to do. For CMSs, on the other hand, haven't used wordpress a lot, but drupal(~4mb) beats Joomla (~10mb) in terms of speed, and weight. I was using both last year, many things could have changed. But again, CMSs are almost good to go as they are. Plus they make adding functions a breeze, even if you come back to your app 6months later, most variable names will still make sense since some frameworks dictate the class names for you :) (Applicable only if you are a the programmer who sometimes uses variables like 'var daniel' and assign it to a database row). > I am by no means up to date with these though, do you consider it to have > improved with Drupal, Joomla etc? It definitely has improved, especially Joomla, from the time it was mambo. And I can't imagine writing a web app from scratch these days. > Thanks > Tim > On 29 August 2010 14:16, Okalany Daniel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > > >> > I also have to point out that using Drupal, will not make a bad > >> > website look good. At the end of the day, it boils down to the > >> > skill set of the individual, whether the person uses Drupal, > >> > Joomla, Sharepoint or note pad (html) > >> > >> Very true, indeed. > >> (though a sharepoint site, IMHO will always make you look very > >> stupid, no matter how sexy it looks like) > >> > > > > I'm thoroughly convinced, that given equal skills, someone using a > > CMS/framework is more likely to produce a good/high quality website, > > as opposed to someone doing it from scratch. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in > any way. > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > WebERP Africa Ltd > +447710427049 > +256752963327 > +255784602561 > www.weberpafrica.com Daniel, Payplus _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---------------------------------------
