Rasmus was the keynote speaker i mentioned in my previous email, and in his new company they are using http://kohanaframework.org/ which he said, he liked.
(His keynote was a lot of fun, as he showed all the stuff Drupal could do to improve performance by just changing the php, or by rewriting part of drupal in C++ :-) I think there is a video somewhere if you are interested in seeing it. -- rgds, Reinier Battenberg Director Mountbatten Ltd. +256 758 801 749 www.mountbatten.net On Tuesday 31 August 2010 15:05:55 Tim Schofield wrote: > Just to give an opposite perspective, there is Ramus Lerdorf's "no > framework framework" > > http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/38-The-no-framework-PHP-MVC-framework.html > > which I must admit comes pretty close to my development philosophy. > The framework or no framework debate is always interesting. I have a > library of code that I have developed over the years, and tend to just > use these functions as and when I require them, and resist the use of > frameworks. > > Thanks > Tim > > > On 31 August 2010 10:51, Reinier Battenberg > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI, > > > > absolutely not. Drupal is a beast. A roaring monster. You *must* install > > APC at least to get the response time down. > > > > When you want to become a programmer, wading through some deep level code > > at some point in your career is never a bad idea. > > > > But to become productive, using API's and Libraries is inevitable. > > Jquery, Drupal, Django, CakePHP, shell32.dll do a lot of heavy lifting > > for you that prevent you from writing the assembly yourself :-) > > > > And even then, with powerful platforms that you tap into, there is plenty > > of totally fun coding to do. > > > > -- > > rgds, > > > > Reinier Battenberg > > Director > > Mountbatten Ltd. > > +256 758 801 749 > > www.mountbatten.net > > > > On Tuesday 31 August 2010 08:58:55 Tim Schofield wrote: > >> My problem with using a CMS/framework has been the amount of bloat > >> that seems to come with a site written with them. I know that these > >> days storage and ram are cheap, but I learnt my programming when 16KB > >> was considered a lot of ram, and still hate to see so much waste. > >> > >> I am by no means up to date with these though, do you consider it to > >> have improved with Drupal, Joomla etc? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Tim > >> > >> On 29 August 2010 14:16, Okalany Daniel <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > >> >> > I also have to point out that using Drupal, will not make a bad > >> >> > website look good. At the end of the day, it boils down to the > >> >> > skill set of the individual, whether the person uses Drupal, > >> >> > Joomla, Sharepoint or note pad (html) > >> >> > >> >> Very true, indeed. > >> >> (though a sharepoint site, IMHO will always make you look very > >> >> stupid, no matter how sexy it looks like) > >> > > >> > I'm thoroughly convinced, that given equal skills, > >> > someone using a CMS/framework is more likely to produce a good/high > >> > quality website, as opposed to someone doing it from scratch. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > LUG mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> > > >> > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > > >> > All Archives can be found at > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >> > (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible > >> > for them in any way. --------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > LUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > > > > LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > > way. --------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ LUG mailing list [email protected] http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---------------------------------------
