Not choosing any side but this has just come in via my RSS feed and could be worth reading... am still an android guy all the way though.
http://mashable.com/2011/07/29/apple-cash-u-s-government/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29 On 29 July 2011 15:41, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: > As an apple fan boy I have nothing against linux. It is obvious that os x > is basically built on it and even ios takes so much from it that to me its > like linux dressed in a fancy suit. > So I think the argument over apple versus linux makes no sense. Its like > arguing that a red car is better than a blue car! > How ever as Tim states. There is a difference between proprietary paid > products and free software. I too love all things free. But if I have to pay > an extra $29.0 to buy os x instead of downloading ubuntu for free. I am > going to pay the extra money for a better linux experience. Compared to the > price of a windows 7 ultimate license os x is basically a steal. As far as > phones go no end user gets the benefits of android being free. The android > phones cost the same as iphones Android updates and ios updates also cost > the same (free). And after using both androids and iphones side by side for > the last three years there is no question ios experience beats android in > everyway. I never sit and wish my iphone could do a, b, and c. But I > regularly pray that the next android update fixes the quirks with my > android phone. I am still waiting for that update > On Jul 29, 2011 8:19 AM, "Tim Schofield" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well I haven't, and never would buy an apple device, so I can't say > > which is faster. > > > > I have been a Free software advocate and user for many years, and > > believe strongly in the principles of Free software. Where there is a > > choice between a Free software option and a proprietary one, as in the > > case of phones, I will always go for the Free software option. > > > > Somebody mentioned the speed at which android is improving, and this > > is one of the great strengths of Free software. The only thing that > > keeps people buying apples products is the superb marketing ability > > they have. Somebody else mentioned that even though they couldn't make > > phone calls from their phone except when held in a certain way, that > > their phone was "super cool". This has been the main thrust of apples > > marketing for nearly 30 years. "Owning an apple device makes you > > cooler and sexier than owners of other devices". It works brilliantly > > as shown by their profits. > > > > My biggest surprise was finding myself being the lone supporter of > > Linux devices on a LUG mailing list. First time I have ever > > experienced that. > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 29 July 2011 13:01, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And yet overall the IOS user experience is, in my limited experience, > better. This guy provides some additional insight: > http://codingrelic.geekhold.com/2008/11/six-million-dollar-libc.html > >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 07:33, Tim Schofield wrote: > >> > >>> They didn't develop it from scratch, its derived from the BSD C > >>> library. It has a much smaller footprint than the gnu library, and is > >>> designed for cpu's that run at slower speeds, making it much better > >>> for mobile devices than the GNU library that ios uses. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 29 July 2011 12:27, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> I am duly educated again, for which I am grateful! Still, developing > their own libc must surely have had to do with licensing? > >>>> > >>>> Since I do not own an iPhone or iPad I suppose I may escape the "fan > boy" tag. Computers have to work well. And I suppose after a while one stops > caring about the wars... > >>>> > >>>> On the server side, Linux forever. On the PC/laptop side, SJ wins > (though I've seen Ubuntu installs lately that look and work pretty well). > Android vs iPhone, the latter seems to me slightly ahead, but then the speed > at which Android has improved is truly impressive. > >>>> > >>>> A Linux use since kernel version 0.9! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 06:48, Tim Schofield wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Yes but bionic libc is open source, which is not really lock down is > it? > >>>>> > >>>>> What have all you apple fan boys got against Linux?? > >>>>> > >>>>> Come over to open source guys, once you've tried it you will never > >>>>> want to go back :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 29 July 2011 11:42, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> I had doubted you re GNU libc not being included in Android. But it > appears you are right: http://thoth.eng.temple.edu/?p=139 > >>>>>> That is a lot of work to do to avoid publishing the source code! > Even famous-for-lock-down Apple includes GNU libc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> P. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 01:59, Dan Carpenter wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Android only uses the Linux kernel. They threw out everything else > >>>>>>> about linux, like the gnu C library and every linux program. They > >>>>>>> wrote their own replacements for that which are licensed under the > >>>>>>> Apache license. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Apache license doesn't require people to pass along the > software. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The most recent version of Android, Honeycomb, was announced in May > >>>>>>> this year. It's not used on phones, only on tablets. Google is > not > >>>>>>> going to release the source for it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Google is going to release the source for the next version "Ice > >>>>>>> Cream Sandwich" which merges the phone and the tablet software. > It's > >>>>>>> going to be released later this year. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But for all the Android products, they do have to share the kernel > >>>>>>> sourse. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards, > >>>>>>> dan carpenter > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] > >>>>>>> Mailing list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > (including attachments if any). 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