Sony I had forgotten that company Does that Sony have iTunes, If you give me a free sony mp3 player, I ll donate it to charity Times have changed Tim, Sony introduced the Walkman but we are in different times
Sony is an antic relic On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> wrote: > Well firstly shoving things down peoples throats is bad marketing, I > never claimed he did that. > > If you are saying he wasn't a marketing genius, then what are you > saying about him? He never claimed to be any good at the technology > side of the business. > > Let me explain. Taking a UK retailer at more or less random > (www.argos.co.uk) they are today retailing a sony walkman 8GB mp3 > player at GBP79.99 and they are selling an ipod nano 8GB mp3 player at > GBP131.99. That is a mark-up of 65% on the Sony. Now they both have > the same storage (8 gigabytes), they both play mp3 files decoded in an > identical way, so the quality of sound will be the same, and it will > just depend on the headphones. I defy anyone to tell them apart on the > sound quality. Functionally they are more or less the same. So they > have the same storage capacity the same quality output, and they do > the same things. Which sells the more? You don't need me to tell you > that the ipod outsells the walkman by a large factor. > > So Steve Jobs' genius is that he made many many millions of people pay > 65% more for a device made in a Chinese sweatshop instead of buying > its equivalent made in a Japanese factory famed for its quality > engineering. Now are you seriously telling me that you don't consider > the guy a marketing genius? > > What he did, and I've heard it said on this list many times, is that > he made the people who bought his devices feel that they were super > cool. He made them feel that when they went out with a device that had > the apple logo on that they were cooler, and sexier than the person > without those devices. How many of us here who run a business wish we > had that talent? > > > > On 6 October 2011 15:29, Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> wrote: >> In school I learnt that price is determined by demand and supply >> >> In life, I have seen monopolies shut down, I don't think Steve Jobs shoved >> his products down anyone's throat >> >> It's not like Apple is a govt monopoly, forcing people to buy products >> >> Freewill is the driver >> >> Some of his projects, didn't fair as well >> >> For example, I don't eat fish, but I ll resist from calling it rubbish >> >> >> On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:21 AM, "Richard B. Sennoga" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Tim - >>> >>> It's not rubbish that Steve sold to you expensively. He sold talent, >>> creativity, quality and magic. Indeed, putting a price to that bundle would >>> be an understatement. For the few years I've been on earth, no one has sold >>> a thing to me of that description. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 17:09, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well I'm not convinced that there is another man in the world who can >>>> convince so many people to buy so much over priced rubbish. >>>> >>>> I don't mean that in any way to be an insult, I have been an admirer >>>> of his abilities in marketing for a very long time. Marketing is an >>>> incredibly difficult skill (I don't mean marketing in the same way the >>>> hundreds of kids running around Kampala claiming to be a marketing >>>> business do). To persuade people to believe in a product that is >>>> mundane is really something else. >>>> >>>> He truly had a genius for it, but now he is gone..... >>>> >>>> On 6 October 2011 14:52, Otandeka Simon Peter <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes he is gone but it is also another opportunity for Tim Cook and his >>>>> team >>>>> to shine much as they will remain living in the shadow of Steve (RIP) for >>>>> some time. I believe Apple is not a one-man show. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> He was probably the greatest marketing genius ever. Without him apple >>>>>> are just another technology company selling overpriced products. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6 October 2011 13:54, Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While launching the iPod he asked the audience, he always wondered why >>>>>>> jeans >>>>>>> had a small inner pocket >>>>>>> And now he figured it out, to keep an iPod >>>>>>> To call him a genius is an understatement, having said that he had >>>>>>> missteps >>>>>>> but he never kept trying,never lost the faith >>>>>>> The story of him getting upset with google when their logo had a problem >>>>>>> with it's yellow gradient, shows his great attention to details was >>>>>>> probably >>>>>>> second to none >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 1:00 AM, Faisal Seif <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He is one of the Most Creative creatures on Earth... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Cavin Aaron <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RIP Steve Jobs, >>>>>>> You fought a good fight, and your works live on forever >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>>>>> attachments if any). 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