You are still missing the point. The moulds my be symmetrical, and the necks symmetrical, but do the plans and drawings show a symmetrical alignment between both elements?
Vance Wood. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute list" <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 12:44 PM Subject: Re: symm/asymm & perfect/imperfect > >Vance said > > The point here is that the > >use of asymmetry was to create the illusion of symmetry. > > Why would anyone want the illusion of symmetry, when one can have the > real thing? Stradivari obviously thought very highly of symmetry, since all > of his moulds are symmetrical. > > Michael Thames > www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vance Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "lute list" <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: symm/asymm & perfect/imperfect > > > > After reading Mr. Lundbergs book several times I have come to the > conclusion > > that he must be correct. He claims to have examined actual instruments > that > > all show the same asymmetry, the neck cocked toward the base side of the > > Lute. He goes on to explain that the body does indeed have a center line, > > and the neck does indeed have a center line, but the juxtaposition of both > > elements does not extend the two center lines so that they become one > common > > center line. Can anyone site an historical instrument where a common > center > > line is obvious? > > > > I realize the argument can be made that the instruments have become warped > > and twisted over time but knowing wood as I do, if that were so, there > would > > be evidence in a dramatic distortion of both the treble and base sides of > > the bowel. The base side would show evidence of compression causing an > > obvious kink near the joint of the neck and bowel. The treble side would > > show evidence of separation at the same point understanding that wood this > > old cannot be stretched, it only cracks and separates. > > > > Vance Wood. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:15 PM > > Subject: RE: symm/asymm & perfect/imperfect > > > > > > > Ron Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > > > Going back to your initial posting about lute symmetry. In the > > > > Stradivari workshop on your recent trip to Italy, you saw a paper > > > > template for a lute body, folded along the centre-line. > > > > > > Is it clear how this template was used? > > > > > > I can see many possibiltys, including the possiblity of other templates > > > now missing. > > > > > > Perhaps this was part of a study, and represents another makers work; > > > are there any strad-made lutes surviving to compare this template to? > > > > > > Sorry, i suppose lots of this has been discussed already, I have been > > > skipping lots of email the past few weeks, too much apparant flaming, > > > not enough time to indulge in reading, let alone responding. > > > -- > > > dana emery > > > > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
