Am 29.11.2012 16:10, schrieb R. Mattes:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:04:48 +0100, Markus Lutz wrote
Hi Shaun, Hi Martyn,
unfortunately I cannot say too much on this topic, at least for the
17th century.
[...]
Another important source, though late, on all topics of life is
Krünitz, Oeconomische Encyclopädie. Probably it also depends on the
encyclopedy of Diderot and on other encyclopedys, for sure at least
some things will have been copied.
It has 242 volumes and describes many things very detailed.
He has big articles on the lute and on strings
Krünitz,
Artikel Laute (lute, vol. 66, p. 380ff, 1795)
But this is rather late as a source for information on 17th century
lute practice (or even for the first half of the 18th century).
There have been two changes in lute building during that time:
first, the extension of the bass range by adding a second pegbox
(swank neck lutes) and then the change to bass rider style lutes
during the 18th century (the later could well be a in response
to a wider availability of overspun bass strings).
Yes, this is pretty late - as I said, an I never claimed anything on the
use of overspun strings in the 17th century.
And I don't know, when they were used first, but I would guess at least
in the end of the 17th and beginning of the 18th century.
But anyway these encyclopedies reflect the things that had been there
for many years.
If you look at the article on lutes you will see that it consist of
different sources, some still have the renaissance tuning/stringing in
mind and others that describe the baroque lute.
In this article Baron is cited quite extensive, and also they used the
articles of Luise Gottsched in Gottscheds "Handlexicon oder Kurzgefaßtes
Wörterbuch der schönen Wissenschaften und freyen Künste"
We cannot at all compare an encyclopedy of that time with our time (or
wikipedia). Changes then had been much slower and they are more a
summing up and mixing old and new things.
But this article says nothing on the first use of overspun strings.
BTW:
The development of the extended bass range indeed is vice versa at least
in "Germany".
First there had been lutes with bass riders (ca. 1719), afterwards the
13-course lutes had been theorbified (around 1730).
Although there had been other theorbified lutes up to the late 17th
century, the theorbifying of the baroque lute had been ascribed to
Silvius Leopold Weiss, who probably first combined this with a 13-course
lute.
Best regards
Markus
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