To hear what this keyboard-centric mucking about with temperament
actually means in practice, I strongly recommend Richard Egarr's
excellent harpsichord recital at Weill Hall on youtu.be/JIvbEWKpGwk
He plays the first half (Byrd and Sweelinck) in 1/4-comma meantone and
the second half (Blow and Purcell) in an unspecified, less extreme
temperament. Before each half, he gives a demonstration of the
effects of each temperament, which are startlingly different (at 02:30
and 48:45). Worth a listen.
On 8 March 2018 at 10:31, Matthew Daillie <dail...@club-internet.fr>
This seems to be a very convoluted and hit and miss method to me.
Maybe it would be good to get back to basics (which is what you are
doing when checking the major thirds between the fifth and third
courses of your lute).
With 1/4 comma meantone you are looking to have 8 pure, beat-less
major thirds (C-E, for example). These are narrower than equal
temperament thirds which can sound pretty awful once you get used to
the purity of major thirds. It is not always easy to hear the beats
on a lute (far less evident than with the metal strings and clear
harmonics of a harpsichord, for example) so it is generally advised
to set the frets based on calculations for your string length. You
can use a calculator such as the one provided online by Lauri
Niskanen which will give you the distances between the nut and the
various frets. All you need to do is enter the string length of your
lute and place your frets accordingly. Here's the link:
Once you've done that you will need to see if you require extra
frets (tastini) for notes that would not be in tune without them
(such as the first position F# on the 4th course of a lute in g').
Mean tone distinguishes between enharmonic notes, (so D# will be
lower than Eb flat, for example) and you can't have both at the same
time on the lute and you will need to adjust the position of certain
frets according to the piece you are playing. Once your frets are
set, I would suggest tuning an a' from a tuning fork or electronic
tuner and then tuning the other courses by ear from that by using
octaves. If you do not feel comfortable tuning by ear then use the
setting on your tuner to get 1/4 comma mean-tone with an Eb as you
will be playing music in flat keys. The final adjustments really do
need to be made by ear, however good your tuner and you can check
the major thirds of the piece you are playing.
Hope this helps.
can use a pr
On 08/03/2018 02:17, Leonard Williams wrote:
Here's a tuning method I've been experimenting with, and I'm
wondering about others' related experiences. My 8 course is
nominally in g (i.e., g treble), 1/4 comma meantone. But - since
most of the music I play is in flat keys, I set my Peterson tuner
for an instrument in F instead of C. Thus when I tune the g, the
readout is d, etc. I've also found that using a chord consisting
of fret d on 3rd, e on 4th, and f on fifth is helpful in refining
the tuning and those frets.
Any similar experiences?
Best to all,
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