My frets move even if I don't want them to move... at least after some
time. Maybe my knots are not good enough. But once you move them, they
become loose.
Actually I find some differences in tone very appealing.
Even if some pieces sound dark or harsh, I try to think of it as color
and not a flaw.
I don't know how this was in different climate zones of Europe, but is
there a region where Lutes are always in tune, considering the "Little
Ice Age" of course, not today's reemerging from it.
But with gut and mostly difficult weather conditions back then, I might
want to think that we're already in Lute Heaven with being able to
choose our room temperature and even avoid gut strings if you're ok with
it...
I sometimes wonder who Archicembali were kept in tune...
Am 08.03.2018 um 18:39 schrieb Daniel Shoskes:
I don’t have OUP access so can’t read the entire review, but would be rather
surprised to have a criticism boil down to Dolata's thesis was “the frets can
move so they must have moved”. I read the book a couple of years ago but
glancing through it again there is a balanced and measured weighing of evidence
including iconography, spacing of historical fixed fret instruments and
multiple vihuela, viol and lute sources including Galilei. If someone can share
the entire review with me I would be happy to re-evalutate and reconsider. For
me personally, spending most of my plucking in the d minor tuning world, equal
temperament is the norm.
Returning to the original question of the original poster, the book contains
practical advice for tuning in meantone temperaments using the ear and/or a
commercial electronic tuner and deals with pros and cons for solo and ensemble
players.
Danny
On Mar 8, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Andreas Schlegel <[email protected]> wrote:
There’s a different view here:
A. Otterstedt, Fretting about tuning (review of D. Dolata, Meantone
temperaments on lutes and viols, Bloomington und Indiana, 2016), in: Early
Music, cax101, https://doi.org/10.1093/em/cax101
Andreas
Am 08.03.2018 um 16:09 schrieb Daniel Shoskes <[email protected]>:
For an excellent book by a musicologist and busy lute performer (solo and
continuo), I highly recommend “Meantone Temperaments on Lutes and Viols” by
David Dolata. Indiana University Press 2016. History covered in part 1, theory
in part 2 and practicalities in part 3 (by ear and using a tuning device).
goo.gl/9Aewv2 <http://goo.gl/9Aewv2>
On Mar 8, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Matthew Daillie <[email protected]> wrote:
I totally agree with Martin Shepherd (indeed two of our messages said the same
thing) but what is the valid point Ron was making ??
Leonard's original post was a question about his method for tuning 1/4 comma
meantone, not whether it was appropriate or not to use it on lutes, a can of
worms I certainly did not wish to open (personally I use both equal and 1/5
comma mean-tone on my lutes).
Best,
Matthew
On 08/03/2018 15:31, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Ron and Martin have valid points - in particular the advocacy of a true
meantone is something of a chimera on the lute. Indeed, this matter of
non-equal temperament on lutes has been considered on this forum a
number of times before - just search the archives. For example this
some seven years ago (and quite a few much more recently):
* [1]Martyn Hodgson <[email protected]>
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