I do so love the pointless bickering. It buoys our spirits and makes
   better lutenists of us all! Pray do carry on!

   Bob Purrenhage

   On 9/17/2018 10:43 PM, howard posner wrote:

Ron Andrico [1]<[email protected]> wrote:

As for the less-than-eloquent William Shakespeare,  it's just plain silly to thi
nk he actually wrote the canon commonly attributed to his name.  He was a player
, a station lower than that of a professional musician.

He was a landowner, a station rather higher than a professional musician.

There are all sorts of indications in the Shakespeare plays that the author had
working-class/agrarian/merchant background.

When Hamlet tells Horatio, "There's a divinity that shapes our ends, rough-hew t
hem how we will," he uses terms that gardeners (or hedge-workers, anyway) were s
till using in the 20th century, and for all I know, the 21st.  His characters wi
ll talk of sheep as actual animals, rather than as metaphors for people easily l
ed, which is unusual if not unique at the time, but a natural thing for someone
who was in the wool business.  The word "cheveril" (glove leather, which needed
to be more supple than any other leather) three times in his plays (Mercutio tel
ls Romeo "O, here's a wit of cheveril, that stretches from an inch narrow to an
ell broad;" the Old Lady remarks on Anne Boleyn's "cheveril conscience" in Henry
 VIII; and Feste in Twelfth Night says "A sentence is 
but a cheveril glove 
to a
 good wit: how quickly the 
wrong side may be turned outward") which is three 
mo
re times than I've ever found it in other other author's words, almost as if the
 au!
 thor's father was John Shakespeare the glove maker.


I think there is strong evidence that the plays arose from the circle surroundin
g Lucy Countess of Bedford, including the  likes of John Donne, Ben Jonson, Edmu
nd Spenser, Samuel Danyel.

I don't even want to know what you'd consider "weak evidence."


William Shakepeare the playwright is a successful bit of propaganda that paved t
he way for other enormous lies that the public buys.

Who would have been part of this disinformation conspiracy, and why?  Besides Be
n Jonson, of course, and a bunch of London publishers, and the theater companies
 in which Shakespeare was a partner, and the university-educated writers who bit
ched about the uneducated upstart, and  everyone else until the 19th century.


 A thinking person considers that tremendous output and weighs it against the ph
ysical reality of the amount of time required to produce all that scribbling in
light of the work a player like William Shakespeare was required to do in order
to survive.

The Shakespeare canon is between 36 and 42 plays, depending on one's attitude ab
out authenticity.  Surely, Ron, as someone who has churned out a large volume of
 deathless, insightful prose as a sidelight to your busy life as a musician, you
're not seriously suggesting that a gifted writer could not produce those plays
over the 25 years we know Shakespeare was active.  That's about a play and half
per year, and we know that a number of plays were collaborations.

If you want to tell me that Telemann had to be identical triplets, I'm with you,
 but "Shakespeare couldn't have found the time" won't hold water.




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