Are those false relations? I can't remember.
But this would be normal, they occur in English music frequently and are
intended that way.
On 15.10.19 08:48, Alain Veylit wrote:
I cannot read this thread without thinking about Spinacino's duets,
particularly the setting of Ghiselin's Jolis amours: are the notes
wrong or is it our ears? Yet, I had found a very convincing rendition
of that duet a while ago on the Net, played as printed 500 years ago
(already!) -- I believe Karl-Ernst Schröder was on one of the 2 lutes
-- Helas, I can no longer find that particular recording on the
Internet any longer. One trick they used to make the half-tone clashes
sound better was to play the piece very fast. It works.
Spinacino's "J'ay pris amours" is still there on YouTube but it is less
striking as an example of utter dissonance to modern ears - see
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljcq1ETbXkI
Anyways, I hope nobody tries to correct Thelonious Monk (or Luigi Nono)
in the future... At least, they will have the recordings, something
they did not have in 1510 Italy ...
And remember: wrong notes should always be accented, otherwise they
sound like a mistake.
On 10/14/19 2:57 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
Depending upon the circumstance, I always resist the urge to improve
upon the choices made by an historical composer, scribe or publisher.
If performing a piece for the entertainment of myself or others,
anything goes. But if editing for the purpose of publishing an edition
of historical music, I feel that one should just let it be if it is not
a mistake (missing measures, wrong cipher on wrong line). Improving
upon the original is a slippery slope, and it is a wee bit presumptuous
to think that, with centuries of hindsight and examples like Wagner and
Charles Ives, we know better than the old ones. If we decide to
improve upon the historical music that has come down to us, what is
next? Synthetic strings? Amplified lutes? Music performed from ipad?
RA
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I always feel compelled to "correct" these instances, because to me it
just does not sound right as is, and it's no big deal to play the 4 on
the next course. To me, the bottom line is what sounds good.
--Sarge
On 10/14/2019 13:34, [7][email protected] wrote:
> Something a bit similar is where one finds a cadential ornament with
> frets 2 1 2 1 2 1 0 1 2 , instead of going down to the 4 on the
next
> string in place of the zero. One finds this occasionally in
German tab
> sources and I assume elsewhere. I've always found it rather
bizarre.
> But if it goes by quickly, I guess it could work.)
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