Dear Jean-Philippe, Your contributions to free software have been important and it is great to have you joining this initiative. Thanks for your interest. We need all the help we can get.
Regarding development of Compiz, I am afraid I cannot tell you anything new, as I have not kept up with their work after F123 sponsored cursor tracking on Compiz Fusion eZoom. I surely hope they are stil a healthy community. Best, Fernando On 04/30/2013 06:13 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > On mardi 30 avril 2013 à 17:47:29 (-0300), Fernando Botelho wrote: >> Dear Jean-Philippe, >> >> Please download and install Jonathan's LXDE version of Sonar and all >> your questions shall be answered. > > Ok. I note and will try. > >> >> The LXDE team has been very wise and correct in including >> accessibility among their core bojectives, but they will change >> their mind very quickly if all they hear from the blind community >> is: "do this for me and do that for me, because I cannot take the >> time to research or help with anything". > > Well, thanks to LXDE team! It's a great initiative in the current context and > for accessibility of free software and Linux in general. I understand what > thread you refer to, but I don't feel concerned just now. > >> >> There is a lot of good will and good intentions, but we are all just >> getting started. Documentation is being talked about and as that >> evolves, I am sure there will be a section for accessibility. > > Well. For my part I can help with testing and writing the docs, and to > translate. > That's why I want to do tests. I also would like these improvements to be > shipped in major distros, hence my question about the releases. Finally, to > test, I think more and more (from my gnome experience) that the best way to > help > is testing the source as designed by devs, before any distro-specific > packaging. > That's why also I wanted to test the source, then have info to see chances to > see these improvements in standard distros, then dev status to help as I've > always done: testing and documenting and promoting. I've been somewhat > discuraged > for some months with gnome3 and other out-of-computing issues, now I try to > come back in community and help, what I do with some virtualization soft help > and a support to a distro. So I only start my support, I hope not being > discuraged. > >> Something that I suspect is not included in the Sonar version of >> LXDE is magnification. However, despite some initial difficulties >> with cursor tracking, about which we are talking with the developer; >> there is already someone using the eZoom plugin for Compiz Fusion on >> LXDE. > > Excellent. But will this work be shipped someday in Compiz-Cusion? The dev > of Compiz doesn't seem very active, am I wrong? > >> My apologies in advance for being a little blunt earlier. Everyone >> has been quite cooperative and if there are specific questions that >> do not involve summarizing everything that is available, please go >> ahead and send it to the list. In all likelyhood someone more >> qualified than I will be able to answer. > > OK. I have a lot of hope in these new desktops. As gnome is more and more > weird for me and hard to compile, I really hope xfce/lxde will bring actually > some alternative. Thanks very much to dev. Let's test and see what exists > today. > > Sincerely, > >> Fernando >> >> >> On 04/30/2013 04:09 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> XFCE has an accessibility page but the work is still "in progress", >>> according >>> to orca's devs when xfce 4.10 was released. >>> >>> I'm sorry to ask this but can someone make me a summary of lxde >>> accessibility, >>> I mean, what lxde release works? what orca release? Do we have with that the >>> menus? Are there keyboards shortcuts to see the menu? Finally, is there a >>> magnifier? >>> >>> Otherwise: where is this info present? Where can I find sume summary? >>> >>> I think I'll compile lxde myself as I guess Debian isn't up-to-date, Ubuntu >>> is but I don't know what choosing; others distros are not >>> install-accessible. >>> >>> Thanks for your answer >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> On lundi 29 avril 2013 à 15:45:05 (+0200), JM wrote: >>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 00:06:26 -0400 >>>> Josh Kennedy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> I was told everything in LXDE is accessible with the orca screen reader >>>>> except for the panel that gives you access to the wireless and bluetooth >>>>> and stuff like that. I have an idea for a project, for setting up my own >>>>> business possibly and for this to work I need LXDE to be fully >>>>> accessible. Please make the panel work with orca and fix other >>>>> accessibility with lxde and orca. Also if you could please make a small >>>>> app perhaps with zenity dialogs to enable typing with a braille keyboard >>>>> in lxde through the braille keyboard support in xorg this would be >>>>> helpful as well. thanks. >>>>> Josh >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Accessibility seems to be one word for something related to a panel of >>>> possible needs. >>>> I just read a page at Xfce4 website to see what they are working on in the >>>> matter, some >>>> parts in this page might give ideas to the devs working on it, so I copy >>>> the link >>>> here: http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap/accessibility >>>> >>>> I read another page just before and found it a bit short, but I'll paste >>>> it too anyway. >>>> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/accessibility >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> mélodie >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Try New Relic Now & We'll Send You this Cool Shirt >>>> New Relic is the only SaaS-based application performance monitoring service >>>> that delivers powerful full stack analytics. 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