On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Julio Rojas wrote:
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes 
the document
more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases.

Fragile because it's easy to forget. Cumbersome because you need to insert new
environment on places where information about new frame was enough. Changing
some document into beamer used to be breeze for me - if you want it fast just go
through document and turn sections into frames, delete some pargraphs and you 
are
done. Now you have to insert mostly superficial separator and care about
nesting. Doable but steals time.

No offense to anyone, but if I were Jurgen, I'd be thinking: These are all great
suggestions, but how long was this in master? How long did people have to
test it after alpha1?

That said, it would be great if those of us who use Beamer extensively could
come up with some concrete ideas about how the UI should work. Jurgen did
the hard work. This should just be tweaking, though perhaps the absolutely
best version involves something like a new layout tag. If so, then that is also
doable.

Richard

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