we shall see. On 18 Nov 2011, at 14:44, Justin Mann wrote: > I tend to believe that they will respond. > On Nov 18, 2011, at 8:23 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> This is an interesting discussion. I will see what happens on my 4S when I >> actively follow a route. Meanwhile, when playing with this yesterday, my >> initial impression was that I could easily get to all the settings and plan >> routes. I even had access to GPS data which was invisible previously. The >> two negatives were that marking one's position as a POI was possible >> exclusively when a route is active, and the only way I found to quit a route >> is to close the app (either via long presses of the power and home keys or >> the app switcher) and restart. >> >> I found the turn by turn list once, but was unable to do so a second time. >> Right now I'm inclined to write that off to a learning curve issue related >> to adjustment to the new interface since I was able to get to it once. When >> I venture out later I will have Navigon follow the route to see if the >> response time and crashes might be related to a failure to test on older >> hardware. >> >> I tend to believe that Navigon may be receptive to feedback, since they did >> restore voice announcements to pedestrian mode last year. >> >> Best regards. >> Geoff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:59 AM >> Subject: Re: navigon Europe 2. >> >> >> The impression I get Bryan is that they don't care. In my dealings with >> them, I have never found them responsive in the lease. Out of curiosity, >> what (if any) alternative app are you using? >> On 18 Nov 2011, at 13:55, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> I tried the update for a couple of hours yesterday and had the same >>> problems here with the Navigon North America version. My negative findings >>> mirror those of DOnal and Anne. There are several critical elements in the >>> UI that VO is denied access to, the whole system became very sluggish at >>> times repeatedly becoming non-responsive with an "in progress" message, and >>> getting out of navigation mode is messy. >>> >>> On the positive side, the new method of selecting individual states and >>> provinces is accessible and it seems they've simplified the UI to eliminate >>> some of the confusing steps previously required to get to certain bits of >>> information. >>> >>> I haven't been a heavy Navigon User for several months, so this update >>> doesn't effect me much but knowing that the app is very popular with the VI >>> VO community, I can imagine Navigon will be hearing from many of us. >>> >>> -Bryan >>> >>> On Nov 18, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote >>>> Some people seem to like the new Navigon, but I find it to be a complete >>>> disaster! I can get it to start navigation, but stopping navigation is >>>> almost impossible for a VO user. 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