Yes, I think they do they just take their time. These are more than likely
minor fixes and would not take much to fix them. I just woulnder if the
sited is having the same problems with not being able to quit the route ? It
might not be just a Vo thing and if this is the case a fix will come really
soon as their sited consumers will be complaining as well. I just think the
blind community really get to upset at times and just not enough pation with
things. JST !


Sign,
Bubba 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Geoff Waaler
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 9:24 AM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: navigon Europe 2.

This is an interesting discussion.  I will see what happens on my 4S when I 
actively follow a route.  Meanwhile, when playing with this yesterday, my 
initial impression was that I could easily get to all the settings and plan 
routes.  I even had access to GPS data which was invisible previously.  The 
two negatives were that marking one's position as a POI was possible 
exclusively when a route is active, and the only way I found to quit a route

is to close the app (either via long presses of the power and home keys or 
the app switcher) and restart.

I found the turn by turn list once, but was unable to do so a second time. 
Right now I'm inclined to write that off to a learning curve issue related 
to adjustment to the new interface since I was able to get to it once.  When

I venture out later I will have Navigon follow the route to see if the 
response time and crashes might be related to a failure to test on older 
hardware.

I tend to believe that Navigon may be receptive to feedback, since they did 
restore voice announcements to pedestrian mode last year.

Best regards.
Geoff


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: navigon Europe 2.


The impression I get Bryan is that they don't care.  In my dealings with 
them, I have never found them responsive in the lease.  Out of curiosity, 
what (if any) alternative app are you using?
On 18 Nov 2011, at 13:55, Bryan Jones wrote:

> I tried the update for a couple of hours yesterday and had the same 
> problems here with the Navigon North America version. My negative findings

> mirror those of DOnal and Anne. There are several critical elements in the

> UI that VO is denied access to, the whole system became very sluggish  at 
> times repeatedly becoming non-responsive with an "in progress" message, 
> and getting out of navigation mode is messy.
>
> On the positive side, the new method of selecting individual states and 
> provinces is accessible and it seems they've simplified the UI to 
> eliminate some of the confusing steps previously required to get to 
> certain bits of information.
>
> I haven't been a heavy Navigon User for several months, so this update 
> doesn't effect me much but knowing that the app is very popular with the 
> VI VO community, I can imagine Navigon will be hearing from many of us.
>
> -Bryan
>
> On Nov 18, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote
>> Some people seem to like the new Navigon, but I find it to be a complete 
>> disaster! I can get it to start navigation, but stopping navigation is 
>> almost impossible for a VO user. Also, it crashes when trying to do 
>> anything after starting navigation.
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