On Tuesday, December 28, 2004, at 08:49 PM, M D wrote:

Brian Futrell wrote:
On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, at 08:36 PM, M D wrote:
Darren wrote:
M D wrote:

So Duke plays on VPC3 and DOS? Cool.

As I understand it VPC will make use of a Voodoo2 breaking the 4mb
ceiling for vram which I see as the major drawback of pc emulation.
I'll throw a couple of bucks at it to find out, last local V2 on
ebay
went for $15, I was at work and missed it. Worst case, I have
another
old video card for yet another old mac or pc.

Oh OK. Well in that case it would be well worth the effort in
obtaining
this card. I'll keep my eyes open for one too. I get the feeling old
PCI
vid cards for Macs are rare, tho'.

I know Softwindows98 has options for both voodoo1 and 2 cards, I dont
see the option with Softwindows95. Voodoo cards can be flashed with
little trouble, stick with 3dfx rather than a third party.

I see RealPC also has the Voodoo 1 & 2 support. It would be interesting
to hear how much speed up to the emulation it gives.


I installed Duke3D into RealPC and it loads! But is way too slow to
even
consider playing [I should try it on a faster mac].

Out of curiosity Mike, what are you running RealPC on?

Promise not to laugh? :)

A Quadra 650 with an Apple PPC upgrade card [now a PPC 650]. I was
setting the 650 up for kids to play old games on over the holidays.
Noticed I had RealPC installed on it so tried running DOS Duke3D just to
see what would happen. Unplayable but everything loaded without crashing
Duke, DOS, or the Mac. - Just editing plain text under DOS it barely
chugs along on this kit you might understand :)



Completely understood. I used to have a Q800 with a PPC100 card in it.

I have a more appropriate Mac to try this on [similar to your 'Sharkey'
and 'Minty'] but with Christmas, haven't had much time for *fun* :)


I also have a G3 MT with the 266(300 oc) board from the ATX hack in it. It worked fine until I tried to use an ATI Nexus 128 card with it. Haven't had much chance to play with it since. It seems that anything I put in that MT case causes it to act flaky.


I have a few models I can try it on - I even have a Voodoo 2 somewhere!
I also have RealPC 1.1, and VPC 2.x/3.x.

You're lucky. It'll be interesting to hear what RPC is like with the Voodoo 2 on board.

Also, the Voodoo 1 & 2 cards can work in PCs and Macs without
modification-only the drivers are needed.

That's it - I want one of these! After failed attempts at getting Matrox Millenium 1 & 2 cards pulled from PCs to work in Macs I've given up on strife :)


Voodoo 3 cards work great too, unless they catch fire when you turn the computer on! (Long story)


You could always try an ATI Radeon card. :)

I've installed an Orchid
Righteous 3D (V1) and a Creative card (V2) and had them work without
any problems. Voodoo 3 cards do require flashing to use with Macs, but
they work rather well afterwards.

Thanks for the info. Mike



No problem.

Brian Futrell
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Minty: Beige G3-ATX 333 512MB/10GB/Zip100/16x10x40/10.2.8
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