Bryan,

The card that doesn't work is a PCI card. It is an extra card in the
computer so I can run two monitors simultaneously. The AGP graphics card
works just fine with my apple monitor. My second monitor works fine with
the AGP card, But, does not work, even acceptably with the Xclaim 3d pro
PCI card.

The 10.3.2 update addresses problems with the supplied video card in the
Blue and White G3's.

Harry

Harry

Monday, March 15, 20047:53 AMBryan Forrestbcforrest at cox.net

>Harry... Sorry I haven't kept up with this thread better. This may have 
>already been mentioned, but Apple has a technote regarding using the 
>Xclaim 3D card in a B&W G3 saying that the 10.3.2 update fixes the 
>graphics issue you describe. When you installed Panther, did you do the 
>updates too, or just the basic install of 10.3.0?
>
>http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25629
>
>--
>Bryan C. Forrest
>Tech 3 - Macintosh Specialist
>LifeNet
>http://www.lifenet.org
>
>On Mar 15, 2004, at 12:04 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>
>> I installed the update. It didn't work. I've spent more time on this 
>> than
>> I care to admit and I can find no solution to my graphics card problem.
>> Surely I am not the only person to have bought this card. You would 
>> think
>> there would be others out there with the same problem. If any of you 
>> who
>> are more savvy with searching Apple's site for downloads and/or info
>> about this issue, I will appreciate your help.
>>
>> Again, I have an ATI Xclaim 3D pro PCI video card. It works fine in
>> 9.2xxx and in Jaguar, but under Panther the card shows 256 colors only
>> and the picture is gray, almost posterized.
>>
>> Apple's web site tells me to go to the ATI web page for driver updates.
>> ATI tells me to go to Apple's web site for the updates.
>>
>> I use the second monitor a lot and sorely miss it in Panther. I am 
>> almost
>> tempted to revert to jaguar so I can use the monitor. If I were to buy 
>> a
>> different video card how do I know it would work?
>>
>> Help! And thanks.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Tuesday, March 9, 200411:08 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com
>>
>>> I did some more digging, the recent release was for the retail Radeon
>>> based cards. (IIRC stands for If I Recall Correctly). You might ask
>>> Ward if the chip in the XClaim will be affected by this (or on the of
>>> the Rage 128 updates.)
>>>
>>>                     Jerry
>>>
>>> On Mar 09, 2004, at 6:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did go to ATI's web site. They do not have drivers for OS X. They 
>>>> say
>>>> apple has them, but when I search apple's site for the drivers I 
>>>> don't
>>>> find them.
>>>>
>>>> What does llRC mean?
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday, March 9, 20046:23 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com
>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried to download the latest drivers from ATI and 
>>>>> installing
>>>>> them. IIRC, there was a recent video driver update for the cards.
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 09, 2004, at 6:12 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 10.3.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And thank-you,.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tuesday, March 9, 20042:08 PMHarry
>>>>>> Jacobson-Beyerharryjb at bellsouth.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a G4 desktop computer. In 2001 I purchased a KDS LCD 
>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> an ATI Xclaim 3d video card. I installed the card, hooked the
>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> and voila, everything worked fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently (and I don't know if it was before I installed panther or
>>>>>>> after,
>>>>>>> the KDS monitor quit working and I sent it back to the company for
>>>>>>> repair. After I removed it from the computer the computer 
>>>>>>> continued
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> act as if I had a second monitor attached (ie I could move windows
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> the main screen onto the second screen-even though it wasn't
>>>>>>> there-and
>>>>>>> then I couldn't retrieve them because I couldn't find them to lock
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> them with the mouse). I removed the video card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The monitor was returned today. I reinstalled the video card, 
>>>>>>> hooked
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> monitor to it and when I booted the picture on the LCD monitor is
>>>>>>> gray
>>>>>>> and  looks like a solarized or posterized photo-not good for a
>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I removed the LCD monitor and hooked it up to a PC and it works
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> hooked the LCD monitor to the main video input on the g4 and it
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> fine. I reseated the video card and hooked the monitor to it
>>>>>>> restarted
>>>>>>> and it's as I described above. I moved the card to a different PCI
>>>>>>> slot
>>>>>>> and it didn't affect the monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THEN I rebooted the computer in 9.2 and the monitor works fine. 
>>>>>>> So I
>>>>>>> booted the monitor in jaguar and the monitor works fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I booted back into panther and the monitor does not work fine!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said, I don't remember if I installed panther before or 
>>>>>>> after I
>>>>>>> removed the video card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line, the monitor works, the video card works but not in
>>>>>>> panther.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What gives and how can I correct the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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