Bryan,

I did update to 10.3.2 but I have a G4. I have installed panther and the
upgrade on two different drives, one with the video card in the computer
and one with the video card out.

I don't know what the differences in the g3 and g4 are that would not
allow the update to fix the problem on either platform.

Thanks.

Harry

Monday, March 15, 20047:53 AMBryan Forrestbcforrest at cox.net

>Harry... Sorry I haven't kept up with this thread better. This may have 
>already been mentioned, but Apple has a technote regarding using the 
>Xclaim 3D card in a B&W G3 saying that the 10.3.2 update fixes the 
>graphics issue you describe. When you installed Panther, did you do the 
>updates too, or just the basic install of 10.3.0?
>
>http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25629
>
>--
>Bryan C. Forrest
>Tech 3 - Macintosh Specialist
>LifeNet
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>
>On Mar 15, 2004, at 12:04 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>
>> I installed the update. It didn't work. I've spent more time on this 
>> than
>> I care to admit and I can find no solution to my graphics card problem.
>> Surely I am not the only person to have bought this card. You would 
>> think
>> there would be others out there with the same problem. If any of you 
>> who
>> are more savvy with searching Apple's site for downloads and/or info
>> about this issue, I will appreciate your help.
>>
>> Again, I have an ATI Xclaim 3D pro PCI video card. It works fine in
>> 9.2xxx and in Jaguar, but under Panther the card shows 256 colors only
>> and the picture is gray, almost posterized.
>>
>> Apple's web site tells me to go to the ATI web page for driver updates.
>> ATI tells me to go to Apple's web site for the updates.
>>
>> I use the second monitor a lot and sorely miss it in Panther. I am 
>> almost
>> tempted to revert to jaguar so I can use the monitor. If I were to buy 
>> a
>> different video card how do I know it would work?
>>
>> Help! And thanks.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> Tuesday, March 9, 200411:08 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com
>>
>>> I did some more digging, the recent release was for the retail Radeon
>>> based cards. (IIRC stands for If I Recall Correctly). You might ask
>>> Ward if the chip in the XClaim will be affected by this (or on the of
>>> the Rage 128 updates.)
>>>
>>>                     Jerry
>>>
>>> On Mar 09, 2004, at 6:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did go to ATI's web site. They do not have drivers for OS X. They 
>>>> say
>>>> apple has them, but when I search apple's site for the drivers I 
>>>> don't
>>>> find them.
>>>>
>>>> What does llRC mean?
>>>>
>>>> Tuesday, March 9, 20046:23 PMJerry Yeagerjerry at browseryshop.com
>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried to download the latest drivers from ATI and 
>>>>> installing
>>>>> them. IIRC, there was a recent video driver update for the cards.
>>>>>
>>>>>                   Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 09, 2004, at 6:12 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have 10.3.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other suggestion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And thank-you,.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tuesday, March 9, 20042:08 PMHarry
>>>>>> Jacobson-Beyerharryjb at bellsouth.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a G4 desktop computer. In 2001 I purchased a KDS LCD 
>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> an ATI Xclaim 3d video card. I installed the card, hooked the
>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> and voila, everything worked fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recently (and I don't know if it was before I installed panther or
>>>>>>> after,
>>>>>>> the KDS monitor quit working and I sent it back to the company for
>>>>>>> repair. After I removed it from the computer the computer 
>>>>>>> continued
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> act as if I had a second monitor attached (ie I could move windows
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> the main screen onto the second screen-even though it wasn't
>>>>>>> there-and
>>>>>>> then I couldn't retrieve them because I couldn't find them to lock
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> them with the mouse). I removed the video card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The monitor was returned today. I reinstalled the video card, 
>>>>>>> hooked
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> monitor to it and when I booted the picture on the LCD monitor is
>>>>>>> gray
>>>>>>> and  looks like a solarized or posterized photo-not good for a
>>>>>>> computer
>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I removed the LCD monitor and hooked it up to a PC and it works
>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> hooked the LCD monitor to the main video input on the g4 and it
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> fine. I reseated the video card and hooked the monitor to it
>>>>>>> restarted
>>>>>>> and it's as I described above. I moved the card to a different PCI
>>>>>>> slot
>>>>>>> and it didn't affect the monitor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THEN I rebooted the computer in 9.2 and the monitor works fine. 
>>>>>>> So I
>>>>>>> booted the monitor in jaguar and the monitor works fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I booted back into panther and the monitor does not work fine!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said, I don't remember if I installed panther before or 
>>>>>>> after I
>>>>>>> removed the video card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line, the monitor works, the video card works but not in
>>>>>>> panther.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What gives and how can I correct the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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