That is just the point, Harry, the teachers are great. They do all they can for 
their students. They have wonderful relationships with them . That is not at 
all the point I am making. But you don't hear anything by the Administration  
that you ought to become a student there because of the great Spanish program , 
or that the English courses are the most excellent and you ought to become a 
student. Somehow these seem to me like stepchildren .They do not get the 
recognition they deserve,  The noise is always about the sports programs. And 
that hurts when you look from the outside , because there are great professors 
not getting enough appreciation from within, so I believe, no matter how many 
letters of appreciation they get or about books they write  etc.  
Of course I know the sports programs bring in the masses and carry the name 
everywhere.  That is good . So maybe I was too general in my remarks. I just 
hate to see Universities carry their credentials as if only the sports programs 
mattered. 
Of course the sports audiences have a lot to do with the great popularity. And 
UofL is therefore known under that sign, all over the country. That of course 
is good in a way, brings in students  and makes the UofL name so popular. . 
And now I sign off on this  theme. 
Marta







On Apr 20, 2013, at 12:18 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

> Marta,
> 
> I have had 4 spanish courses at UofL. My teachers have all been excellent. 
> 
> I stand by my comments, I think UofL is a great place to be.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Marta Edie <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I don't doubt that there are marvellous professors with great courses.You 
>> know our Lee is among them.  And they work tirelessly to keep up standards. 
>> I did after all teach there and enjoyed my life and my students ,and worked 
>> hard for them, and still think they learned something. However, when it 
>> comes to the Arts and Sciences, the back bone, and languages,  they are, 
>> ever so slowly, losing in value. 
>> What I find sad is that much of the attention is focused on the athletic 
>> teams, not the other way around. And this, somehow , I believe,  has to do a 
>> lot with  the way the  university is promoting its values.
>> Marta
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Dr. James Priest wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree. My daughter attends U of L was just accepted to grad school at U 
>>> of Chicago and Two schools in England. So it can't be that bad. My wife 
>>> also graduated medical school from U of L. I work with several universities 
>>> globally. The IT at all seems a little lacking. My daughter had a few IT 
>>> issued which were worked out although it took finding the right person.    
>>> 
>>> Dr. James Priest PhD 
>>> Sr. Fire Strategist/Researcher
>>> 
>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh Marta,
>>>> 
>>>> I am sorry you feel that way. I have been taking classes at UofL for 3 
>>>> years now. I have met some very incredible students, both scholarship and 
>>>> non scholarship. I have had marvelous, caring, energetic professors. It’s 
>>>> a great place to be.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Marta Edie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I have long given up to look at the UofL as a university anymore. I would 
>>>>> only send somebody there if they want to become athletes or had a 
>>>>> scholarship to squeeze in a few selected courses.  It has become that bad 
>>>>> and that sad. 
>>>>> Marta
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Lee Larson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This problem has been around for about a year and nobody I've talked to 
>>>>>>> at UofL IT seems particularly interested in solving it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, yes, that's the old UofL that I have fond memories of!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You'd think that since the early nineties that someone would have taken 
>>>>>> their head out of the sand and seen that the world was changing out 
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That attitude will only bring them to irrelevance. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, they have a successful athletic program? Well, then, never mind!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ::-\
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> j.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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