And here's another! billion dollar question: how do you shut off! the preview payne in Yosemite, and while at it, also how do you do it in Mavericks 10.9.5?

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate


Hi,

No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, is only usable when the Preview Pane is active. As long as the VO-j action automatically interacts with the Message Content area, it should still work for you. Should is my favourite word in computer-land though.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:52, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:

When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's
still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using
quick nav for this to work?


On 4/13/15, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

I believe what is happening here is primarily related to iMap mail accounts
not loading messages as fast as they should.  I have three main accounts
along with a few seldom used others. Of the three main accounts, one is an
iCloud iMap, one a POP, and one a Google Apps gMail iMap account.  In
testing, if I press return on a message in either of the iMap accounts,
sometimes the message does not load up as quick as it used to.  Closing it
then pressing return a second time brings it up faster and the arrow line by
line then works.  In my one POP account, I do the same and the message is
readable line by line right away first time. As mentioned by a few previous
posters, interacting with the message area will consequently allow for the
arrow line by line navigation. I really hadn't noticed this problem myself as I normally just press return on the message then let VO read it to me and
close it when I've heard enough or just move on to the next one in the
conversation. So, both the VO-j method and mine would not have noticed this
issue specifically, even though it does exist.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:10, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:

Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for
me it hasn't.

On 4/13/15, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi!
I use the voiceover j command to read mails and that works fine.
/A
12 apr 2015 kl. 04:51 skrev Deb Lewis <[email protected]>:

Yes, interacting has not been effective at all.
On Apr 11, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo-arrows, I can't just
arrow.
Worse, if a message has multiple links and I use vo-cmd-l to move
through
them. VoiceOver gets stuck on the first one. It might even say the
second
or third as I move, but it is actually stuck on the first no matter
what.
On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Matthew Dyer
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hui,

I also  notest this.  I just interact and all is well.

Matthew



On 04/11/2015 10:18 PM, Deb Lewis wrote:
Hi:
I'm noticing since updating the Mac this week that when I open a mail
message it no longer is possible to arrow through the message by
lines.
Now it says message content area and reads the message all at once. I
actually don't like this behavior. It just started with this update
this week. Anyway to restore the old behavior where the message just
opened as text that you could arrow through?

Deb


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