On Apr 14, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
Chris,
I’ll paste in some instructions I posted back in Mavericks time. Still
work as far as I’m aware.
1. Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane.
2. Check to change to Classic View.
3. Close Mail Prefs.
4. Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table.
5. Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter.
6. Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the
physical Trackpad.
You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be
right after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom
of the window.
7. Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the
box.
8. Close the Mail Prefs.
You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by
navigating around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter
before and after the Messages Column Group.
If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the
Preview Pane in Classic view. Once you re-open Mail, you can change
back to the Modern View and the change should stick. At least it has
for me numerous times.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Apr 13, 2015, at 21:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
And here's another! billion dollar question: how do you shut off! the
preview payne in Yosemite, and while at it, also how do you do it in
Mavericks 10.9.5?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate
Hi,
No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of
course, is only usable when the Preview Pane is active. As long as the
VO-j action automatically interacts with the Message Content area, it
should still work for you. Should is my favourite word in computer-land
though.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:52, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's
still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using
quick nav for this to work?
On 4/13/15, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I believe what is happening here is primarily related to iMap mail
accounts
not loading messages as fast as they should. I have three main accounts
along with a few seldom used others. Of the three main accounts, one is
an
iCloud iMap, one a POP, and one a Google Apps gMail iMap account. In
testing, if I press return on a message in either of the iMap accounts,
sometimes the message does not load up as quick as it used to. Closing
it
then pressing return a second time brings it up faster and the arrow
line by
line then works. In my one POP account, I do the same and the message
is
readable line by line right away first time. As mentioned by a few
previous
posters, interacting with the message area will consequently allow for
the
arrow line by line navigation. I really hadn't noticed this problem
myself
as I normally just press return on the message then let VO read it to me
and
close it when I've heard enough or just move on to the next one in the
conversation. So, both the VO-j method and mine would not have noticed
this
issue specifically, even though it does exist.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:10, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for
me it hasn't.
On 4/13/15, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi!
I use the voiceover j command to read mails and that works fine.
/A
12 apr 2015 kl. 04:51 skrev Deb Lewis <[email protected]>:
Yes, interacting has not been effective at all.
On Apr 11, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo-arrows, I can't just
arrow.
Worse, if a message has multiple links and I use vo-cmd-l to move
through
them. VoiceOver gets stuck on the first one. It might even say the
second
or third as I move, but it is actually stuck on the first no matter
what.
On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Matthew Dyer
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hui,
I also notest this. I just interact and all is well.
Matthew
On 04/11/2015 10:18 PM, Deb Lewis wrote:
Hi:
I'm noticing since updating the Mac this week that when I open a
mail
message it no longer is possible to arrow through the message by
lines.
Now it says message content area and reads the message all at once.
I
actually don't like this behavior. It just started with this update
this week. Anyway to restore the old behavior where the message
just
opened as text that you could arrow through?
Deb
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