Thanks. I’ll give that a shot.
Chris. > On Apr 14, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Chris, > > I’ll paste in some instructions I posted back in Mavericks time. Still work > as far as I’m aware. > >> 1. Go into Mail Prefs and select the Viewing pane. >> 2. Check to change to Classic View. >> 3. Close Mail Prefs. >> 4. Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter after the Messages Table. >> 5. Press VO-cmd-f5 to make sure the mouse is focused on the Splitter. >> 6. Press down on the Trackpad then drag downwards to the bottom of the >> physical Trackpad. >> >> You will know that it worked because the splitter will no longer be right >> after the Messages Table, it will be the last item at the bottom of the >> window. >> >> 7. Change back into Modern View in the Mail Prefs by unchecking the box. >> 8. Close the Mail Prefs. >> >> You will know that the Preview Pane is closed/hidden/disabled by navigating >> around the Mail window and you will note a Vertical Splitter before and >> after the Messages Column Group. >> >> If it’s not sticking for you, try quitting Mail after getting rid of the >> Preview Pane in Classic view. Once you re-open Mail, you can change back to >> the Modern View and the change should stick. At least it has for me >> numerous times. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 13, 2015, at 21:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> > wrote: > > And here's another! billion dollar question: how do you shut off! the > preview payne in Yosemite, and while at it, also how do you do it in > Mavericks 10.9.5? > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate > > > Hi, > > No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, > is only usable when the Preview Pane is active. As long as the VO-j action > automatically interacts with the Message Content area, it should still work > for you. Should is my favourite word in computer-land though. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:52, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's > still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using > quick nav for this to work? > > > On 4/13/15, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I believe what is happening here is primarily related to iMap mail accounts >> not loading messages as fast as they should. I have three main accounts >> along with a few seldom used others. Of the three main accounts, one is an >> iCloud iMap, one a POP, and one a Google Apps gMail iMap account. In >> testing, if I press return on a message in either of the iMap accounts, >> sometimes the message does not load up as quick as it used to. Closing it >> then pressing return a second time brings it up faster and the arrow line by >> line then works. In my one POP account, I do the same and the message is >> readable line by line right away first time. As mentioned by a few previous >> posters, interacting with the message area will consequently allow for the >> arrow line by line navigation. I really hadn't noticed this problem myself >> as I normally just press return on the message then let VO read it to me and >> close it when I've heard enough or just move on to the next one in the >> conversation. So, both the VO-j method and mine would not have noticed this >> issue specifically, even though it does exist. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 10:10, Deb Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for >> me it hasn't. >> >> On 4/13/15, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> I use the voiceover j command to read mails and that works fine. >>> /A >>>> 12 apr 2015 kl. 04:51 skrev Deb Lewis <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Yes, interacting has not been effective at all. >>>>> On Apr 11, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo-arrows, I can't just >>>>> arrow. >>>>> Worse, if a message has multiple links and I use vo-cmd-l to move >>>>> through >>>>> them. VoiceOver gets stuck on the first one. It might even say the >>>>> second >>>>> or third as I move, but it is actually stuck on the first no matter >>>>> what. >>>>>> On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Matthew Dyer >>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hui, >>>>>> >>>>>> I also notest this. I just interact and all is well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/11/2015 10:18 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: >>>>>>> Hi: >>>>>>> I'm noticing since updating the Mac this week that when I open a mail >>>>>>> message it no longer is possible to arrow through the message by >>>>>>> lines. >>>>>>> Now it says message content area and reads the message all at once. I >>>>>>> actually don't like this behavior. It just started with this update >>>>>>> this week. 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