Using a Macbook Pro 13 inch Retina mid 2012 if that's any help. Not tested on the 2015 15 inch retina as it is my main system.

On 7/13/2015 8:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
Not confirmed here. No issues at all.
/Krister

13 juli 2015 kl. 04:46 skrev Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com>:

So there's a bug in the Open File dialog when trying to open any type of file 
from any application.
Can anybody else duplicate? VoiceOver just busy freezes.

On 7/13/2015 2:30 AM, E.T. wrote:
Well, good luck. If there are enough people like you who can focus on the work, 
it will get done.

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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 7/12/2015 6:14 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Hi ET,

This is mainly to pipeline the issues list and send all the feedback with audio 
samples to demonstrate the degree of impact each issue has on everyone’s daily 
use. The fail factor is fine with me, as if there are people who genuinely want 
to help improve the experience, they should be given the opportunity to do so. 
For those who just download the beta and talk about NDA or not NDA, feeling bad 
or feeling queezy etc, I can rub two ducks about it.

Will try to find the moderator or whatever is happening with the whole concept 
of keeping trolls out of the way.

Cheers,



On 13/07/2015, at 9:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

   The proposal does have merit. The difficulty comes in when people are not on 
board with it so it will fail. Maybe I am too cynical.

   It would in fact be wonderful if this actually worked for there are times 
when traffic is so heavy the delete key is used big time.

   No moderator. Been missing since last year at least. This is why I say this 
proposal will fail.

   What about a mailing list dedicated to this for the ones engaged in beta 
testing?

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On 7/12/2015 4:25 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
I really don’t care about your suppositions my friend. All I’m doing is trying 
to make my experience on voice over the best it can be and try to help as much 
as I can.

Thanks for mentioning the rule. I don’t need some weird emotional dude trolling 
my mailbox so I’ll just go ahead now and make any of your messages go “poof”, 
oh snap, that human spam is gone.

Have a great week, chump


On 13/07/2015, at 7:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

I suppose those people who don't wanna do this, like me, you're going to also 
teach them in case they don't know, how to make an e-mail filter?  This way 
they don't have to see the thread if they don't wish to?

Smirk?

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Yuma Decaux" <jamy...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread


Hi All,

I see a lot of you have downloaded the public beta, and since apple’s amendment 
to disclosure of information regarding public beta bugs and features allows 
pretty much every news outlet out there to discuss these things, including all 
comments from individuals doing the same in these articles, it is fair to 
assume that it will not be a problem either for mailing lists and other 
communication channels.

So I propose that we create a thread for people to write up different 
inconsistencies they might find for others to replicate the issue so that those 
who have feedback assistant can report this to the engineers. The idea is for 
the more commonly occuring bugs to be squashed, by sheer number of reports. 
Some will not have the time to write the thing down properly but can definetely 
participate since legally those discussions are possible.

I first will need to ask a few people, then confirm this is possible since all 
of us are voice over users and all of us want voice over to be as good as it 
can get.

I believe there should be a few rules:
1-no feature requests as this would explode the thread
2-When someone finds an issue, there should be a structured method of 
explaining the process so that others can easily replicate it
3-All should be in the same thread in order not to hijack the mailing list with 
everyone reporting issues, which can clutter the list from certain everyday 
technical questions other non public beta users may have.

This is a proposal, and I’m not quite on the go ahead as I would like to make 
sure every angle is covered before really going through it.

A question: where are the moderators in this list? Can someone give me his/her 
email?

Thanks, and have an awesome week


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