i don't see any problem with mail here.
> On 13 Jul 2015, at 2:08 PM, Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Using a Macbook Pro 13 inch Retina mid 2012 if that's any help. Not tested on 
> the 2015 15 inch retina as it is my main system.
> 
> 
> On 7/13/2015 8:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Not confirmed here. No issues at all.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 13 juli 2015 kl. 04:46 skrev Shaf <shafpa...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> So there's a bug in the Open File dialog when trying to open any type of 
>>> file from any application.
>>> Can anybody else duplicate? VoiceOver just busy freezes.
>>> 
>>> On 7/13/2015 2:30 AM, E.T. wrote:
>>>> Well, good luck. If there are enough people like you who can focus on the 
>>>> work, it will get done.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/12/2015 6:14 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>>> Hi ET,
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is mainly to pipeline the issues list and send all the feedback with 
>>>>> audio samples to demonstrate the degree of impact each issue has on 
>>>>> everyone’s daily use. The fail factor is fine with me, as if there are 
>>>>> people who genuinely want to help improve the experience, they should be 
>>>>> given the opportunity to do so. For those who just download the beta and 
>>>>> talk about NDA or not NDA, feeling bad or feeling queezy etc, I can rub 
>>>>> two ducks about it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Will try to find the moderator or whatever is happening with the whole 
>>>>> concept of keeping trolls out of the way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13/07/2015, at 9:37 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   The proposal does have merit. The difficulty comes in when people are 
>>>>>> not on board with it so it will fail. Maybe I am too cynical.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   It would in fact be wonderful if this actually worked for there are 
>>>>>> times when traffic is so heavy the delete key is used big time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   No moderator. Been missing since last year at least. This is why I say 
>>>>>> this proposal will fail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   What about a mailing list dedicated to this for the ones engaged in 
>>>>>> beta testing?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/12/2015 4:25 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>>>>> I really don’t care about your suppositions my friend. All I’m doing is 
>>>>>>> trying to make my experience on voice over the best it can be and try 
>>>>>>> to help as much as I can.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for mentioning the rule. I don’t need some weird emotional dude 
>>>>>>> trolling my mailbox so I’ll just go ahead now and make any of your 
>>>>>>> messages go “poof”, oh snap, that human spam is gone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have a great week, chump
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13/07/2015, at 7:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I suppose those people who don't wanna do this, like me, you're going 
>>>>>>>> to also teach them in case they don't know, how to make an e-mail 
>>>>>>>> filter?  This way they don't have to see the thread if they don't wish 
>>>>>>>> to?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Smirk?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yuma Decaux" <jamy...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:14 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: proposal: the macvisionaries bug replication thread
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I see a lot of you have downloaded the public beta, and since apple’s 
>>>>>>>> amendment to disclosure of information regarding public beta bugs and 
>>>>>>>> features allows pretty much every news outlet out there to discuss 
>>>>>>>> these things, including all comments from individuals doing the same 
>>>>>>>> in these articles, it is fair to assume that it will not be a problem 
>>>>>>>> either for mailing lists and other communication channels.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So I propose that we create a thread for people to write up different 
>>>>>>>> inconsistencies they might find for others to replicate the issue so 
>>>>>>>> that those who have feedback assistant can report this to the 
>>>>>>>> engineers. The idea is for the more commonly occuring bugs to be 
>>>>>>>> squashed, by sheer number of reports. Some will not have the time to 
>>>>>>>> write the thing down properly but can definetely participate since 
>>>>>>>> legally those discussions are possible.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I first will need to ask a few people, then confirm this is possible 
>>>>>>>> since all of us are voice over users and all of us want voice over to 
>>>>>>>> be as good as it can get.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I believe there should be a few rules:
>>>>>>>> 1-no feature requests as this would explode the thread
>>>>>>>> 2-When someone finds an issue, there should be a structured method of 
>>>>>>>> explaining the process so that others can easily replicate it
>>>>>>>> 3-All should be in the same thread in order not to hijack the mailing 
>>>>>>>> list with everyone reporting issues, which can clutter the list from 
>>>>>>>> certain everyday technical questions other non public beta users may 
>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is a proposal, and I’m not quite on the go ahead as I would like 
>>>>>>>> to make sure every angle is covered before really going through it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A question: where are the moderators in this list? Can someone give me 
>>>>>>>> his/her email?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks, and have an awesome week
>>>>>>>> 
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