Lol a phone would be too small for real porn application, maybe the iPad would be better. But this is metal, it couldn't really show too much tactilly.
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let alone the porn possibilities! > > :) > >> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sure. They could make the home button into a sort of reactive button, where >> you would press on the raised metal button, it would click, 3d touch, and >> would depress like a regular button. Tellephone keys, little keyboard keys >> for typing, feelable icons, it'd all make sense, especially sense 3d touch >> is involved. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I’m not sure about that either because I know they do hire good quality >>> people even for accessibility efforts so I’m not sure it’s that simple. I >>> heard about the patent for the reactive metal but I can’t imagine that >>> being practical unless it has some benefit for the sited as well. >>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> For whatever the reason, I simply don't think Apple has higher the >>>> expertise they need to get braille right. I think this notion of them >>>> doing something special with braille on the screen is nonsense. If I'm >>>> wrong and proven wrong, so be it. But I really do believe the problem is >>>> they don't know how to get it right, and they haven't found the person who >>>> can help them do it. That seem sad, given their money, but there you go. >>>> . >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I sort of think Apple has something big planned though. I've read that >>>>> they have their own patent for sort of elastic and shapable metal, so >>>>> that the metal could form dots and such. I don't know if they'll do that, >>>>> or just keep supporting braille displays, but the lack of new fixes in >>>>> braille leads me to think that they'll do a tactile display for the >>>>> iPhone, and the braille display things will just get in the way. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, I meant that tongue and cheek, I am in total agreement with you. >>>>>> Apple’s braille support needs a lot of work and it’s inexcusable how bad >>>>>> it is now. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> Oh dear. >>>>>>> Soon i will give up on this as they do not seem to prioritize braille >>>>>>> at all. >>>>>>> If apple was a german or European company there’s no doubt that the >>>>>>> braille support will be better. >>>>>>> It took us forever to get good braille support for Jaws. >>>>>>> Also for window eyes but its there. >>>>>>> Nvda has support for braille displays but braille support in the sense >>>>>>> of navigating seems not to be able yet. >>>>>>> Dolphin has good support and orca for linux. >>>>>>> Still mac is not very well supported in braille. >>>>>>> Its a shame and i will really let them know that. >>>>>>> Sorry for my offensive attack here but i am so tired of this. >>>>>>> THey just get back to you saying thanks for your report we will pass >>>>>>> this on to blablabla. >>>>>>> I am pissed off but i hope things will be better. >>>>>>> Still optemistic though. >>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>> 1 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev William Windels >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> I was reading the bug and feature report of Kris , thx for that. >>>>>>>> As announced in that blog, there was not much braille testing with >>>>>>>> 10.11 while this is for me and others important. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some first remarks: >>>>>>>> 1. It happens often that I have braille on the display but I can’t >>>>>>>> move around. The trick seems to be that I have to switch to another >>>>>>>> program and then I should come back. A kind of screen refreshing is >>>>>>>> needed here perhaps? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. I turn vo-cursor on the braille display off because dots 7 and 8 >>>>>>>> are used for capitals and some computer signs. >>>>>>>> When this is turned off, I can’t see on the display which application >>>>>>>> has the focus while switching from app to app with command+tab. (Yes, >>>>>>>> I can hear it but sometimes I don’t use sound if I am in a course. >>>>>>>> I suggested accessibility to put the selected program on the most left >>>>>>>> position on the display or, like in windows with jaws, only the >>>>>>>> selected program should appear on the display while switching from one >>>>>>>> program to another. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Not all controls like radiobuttons , checkboxes, comboboxes, >>>>>>>> edit-fields , are presented with symbols on the display. Mostly, they >>>>>>>> are fully written in dutch “keuzerondje=radiobutton, >>>>>>>> aankruisvakje=checkbox, keuzelijst=combobox … >>>>>>>> This should be represented with symbols like { }/{x} [ ] [x] ( )/(x) … >>>>>>>> I subpose that the controls like above, are presented with this kind >>>>>>>> of symbols when the interface-language is set on English. >>>>>>>> This is een old question I think but still not changed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any comments or reports to apple accessibility are very welcom >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>>> William Windels >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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