Sure. They could make the home button into a sort of reactive button, where you 
would press on the raised metal button, it would click, 3d touch, and would 
depress like a regular button. Tellephone keys, little keyboard keys for 
typing, feelable icons, it'd all make sense, especially sense 3d touch is 
involved.

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> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure about that either because I know they do hire good quality 
> people even for accessibility efforts so I’m not sure it’s that simple.  I 
> heard about the patent for the reactive metal but I can’t imagine that being 
> practical unless it has some benefit for the sited as well.  
>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> For whatever the reason, I simply don't think Apple has higher the expertise 
>> they need to get braille right. I think this notion of them doing something 
>> special with braille on the screen is nonsense. If I'm wrong and proven 
>> wrong, so be it. But I really do believe the problem is they don't know how 
>> to get it right, and they haven't found the person who can help them do it. 
>> That seem sad, given their money, but there you go.
>> .
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I sort of think Apple has something big planned though. I've read that they 
>>> have their own patent for sort of elastic and shapable metal, so that the 
>>> metal could form dots and such. I don't know if they'll do that, or just 
>>> keep supporting braille displays, but the lack of new fixes in braille 
>>> leads me to think that they'll do a tactile display for the iPhone, and the 
>>> braille display things will just get in the way.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, I meant that tongue and cheek, I am in total agreement with you.  
>>>> Apple’s braille support needs a lot of work and it’s inexcusable how bad 
>>>> it is now.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Oh dear.
>>>>> Soon i will give up on this as they do not seem to prioritize braille at 
>>>>> all.
>>>>> If apple was a german or European company there’s no doubt that the 
>>>>> braille support will be better.
>>>>> It took us forever to get good braille support for Jaws.
>>>>> Also for window eyes but its there.
>>>>> Nvda has support for braille displays but braille support in the sense of 
>>>>> navigating seems not to be able yet.
>>>>> Dolphin has good support and orca for linux.
>>>>> Still mac is not very well supported in braille.
>>>>> Its a shame and i will really let them know that.
>>>>> Sorry for my offensive attack here but i am so tired of this.
>>>>> THey just get back to you saying thanks for your report we will pass this 
>>>>> on to blablabla.
>>>>> I am pissed off but i hope things will be better.
>>>>> Still optemistic though.
>>>>> /A 
>>>>>> 1 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev William Windels <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I was reading the bug and feature report of Kris , thx for that.
>>>>>> As announced in that blog, there was not much braille testing with 10.11 
>>>>>> while this is for me and others important.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some first remarks:
>>>>>> 1.    It happens often that I have braille on the display but I can’t 
>>>>>> move around. The trick seems to be that I have to switch to another 
>>>>>> program and then I should  come back. A kind of screen refreshing is 
>>>>>> needed here perhaps?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.    I turn vo-cursor on the braille display off because dots 7 and 8 
>>>>>> are used for capitals and some computer signs.
>>>>>> When this is turned off, I can’t see on the display which application 
>>>>>> has the focus while switching from app to app with command+tab. (Yes, I 
>>>>>> can hear it but sometimes I don’t use sound if I am in a course.
>>>>>> I suggested accessibility to put the selected program on the most left 
>>>>>> position on the display or, like in windows with jaws, only the selected 
>>>>>> program should appear on the display while switching from one program to 
>>>>>> another.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. Not all controls like radiobuttons , checkboxes, comboboxes, 
>>>>>> edit-fields , are presented with symbols on the display. Mostly, they 
>>>>>> are fully written in dutch “keuzerondje=radiobutton, 
>>>>>> aankruisvakje=checkbox, keuzelijst=combobox …
>>>>>> This should be represented with symbols like { }/{x} [ ] [x] ( )/(x) …
>>>>>> I subpose that the controls like above, are  presented with this kind of 
>>>>>> symbols when the interface-language is set on English.
>>>>>> This is een old question I think but still not changed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any comments or reports to apple accessibility are very welcom
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> William Windels
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