BTW, I meant that tongue and cheek, I am in total agreement with you.  Apple’s 
braille support needs a lot of work and it’s inexcusable how bad it is now.

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Oh dear.
> Soon i will give up on this as they do not seem to prioritize braille at all.
> If apple was a german or European company there’s no doubt that the braille 
> support will be better.
> It took us forever to get good braille support for Jaws.
> Also for window eyes but its there.
> Nvda has support for braille displays but braille support in the sense of 
> navigating seems not to be able yet.
> Dolphin has good support and orca for linux.
> Still mac is not very well supported in braille.
> Its a shame and i will really let them know that.
> Sorry for my offensive attack here but i am so tired of this.
> THey just get back to you saying thanks for your report we will pass this on 
> to blablabla.
> I am pissed off but i hope things will be better.
> Still optemistic though.
> /A 
>> 1 okt. 2015 kl. 08:33 skrev William Windels <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I was reading the bug and feature report of Kris , thx for that.
>> As announced in that blog, there was not much braille testing with 10.11 
>> while this is for me and others important.
>> 
>> Some first remarks:
>> 1.   It happens often that I have braille on the display but I can’t move 
>> around. The trick seems to be that I have to switch to another program and 
>> then I should  come back. A kind of screen refreshing is needed here perhaps?
>> 
>> 2.   I turn vo-cursor on the braille display off because dots 7 and 8 are 
>> used for capitals and some computer signs.
>> When this is turned off, I can’t see on the display which application has 
>> the focus while switching from app to app with command+tab. (Yes, I can hear 
>> it but sometimes I don’t use sound if I am in a course.
>> I suggested accessibility to put the selected program on the most left 
>> position on the display or, like in windows with jaws, only the selected 
>> program should appear on the display while switching from one program to 
>> another.
>> 
>> 3. Not all controls like radiobuttons , checkboxes, comboboxes, edit-fields 
>> , are presented with symbols on the display. Mostly, they are fully written 
>> in dutch “keuzerondje=radiobutton, aankruisvakje=checkbox, 
>> keuzelijst=combobox …
>> This should be represented with symbols like { }/{x} [ ] [x] ( )/(x) …
>> I subpose that the controls like above, are  presented with this kind of 
>> symbols when the interface-language is set on English.
>> This is een old question I think but still not changed.
>> 
>> Any comments or reports to apple accessibility are very welcom
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> William Windels
>> 
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