What I have found, and still find after all these years. amusing is
how the "kids" show total lack of maturity. Kawal, you do not need to
subject yourself to the whims of the moderators, just show yourself out.
Doing so would prove your own maturity.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
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On 8/10/2017 2:25 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Sorry, but I find moderator's notes amusing. You don't know how much I laugh
because little things turn in to big things. I've not had such a laugh for a
long time on this list. May be I'll get in to trouble, but at this point, I am
not too worried.
Cara sounds like the head mistress, Mark sounds like the naughty head deputy
who did a slight boo boo and Scott is like the kid who said something to start
this all off! Like you do normally do Scott, always gets caught out and gets
in to trouble so he says 'sorry miss and Mr so so, won't do it again' but you
know it happens again and it catches the mods out! Oh such fun.
On 10 Aug 2017, at 18:29, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote:
Hey Scott,
Why are you saying this policy has to do with personal feelings when you have
not taken any time at all to get to know either me or Mark? You have no idea
what our personal feelings are on this.
-Okay, to be fair, perhaps you have gotten to know Mark unbeknownst to me, but
I know you and I don’t really know each other. :)
So please don’t stir the pot just for the sake of stirring the pot. This isn’t
about our personal feelings.
Anyway, for the record, I really couldn’t care less if we discuss beta material
or not, providing that public discussion is permitted in the user agreement
provided along with the software for the public beta program. -And, for what
it’s worth, I agree with you that as blind customers, we really need to make
our voices heard on issues that are important to us. I just don’t believe that
we should be breaking agreements to do it unless that is absolutely our *only*
available option.
Since I am not a member of the public beta program, if someone would like to
post the agreement here or point me to it, I’ll be happy to take a look.
If it says we can discuss it then we’ll simply change the policy. No biggie.
This is not some big personal thing, this is just a matter of a simple user
agreement. That’s all.
Cheers!
Cara
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On Aug 10, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why join a list when the rules are based in some arbitrary feeling that is
based on personal feelings rather than the law?
That’s just silly.
Counter to you, on any list I run feel free to discuss public anything as much
as you like. Public betas to public flogging, doesn’t matter to me. Nor does
it matter to Apple, their legal teams or any boiler plate.
It’s fine if Mark wants no discussion on a topic but don’t represent something
that’s not true, it’s a personal decision not one based on anything legal or
even best practices. Public anything is open for discussion. Developer betas
are a different matter and nobody crossed that line.
Sometimes it’ really hurts.
On Aug 10, 2017, at 9:33 AM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com>
wrote:
I am, and will still stand by mine and the group management thoughts on this.
Questions about either Developer or public betas should not be allowed, in my
opinion. Nough said. I do not allow such discussion on my own general
technology list, which, btw you are more than welcome to join. Please ask off
list so as to avoid clutter. Cheers!
On 10 Aug 2017, at 13:55, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
Not even public beta questions. Why? Simple. It’s still beta and therefore,
falls under Apple’s non disclosure agreement.
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
iPhone7+ and Apple TV user!
On Aug 10, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote:
Hi mark!
I am sorry for that one.
Not even public beta questions?
If not then i am very sorry to ask this here.
/A
10 aug. 2017 kl. 05:57 skrev M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu>:
Hello Anders,
Beta software questions are not for this list.
If you have beta software questions, you may request that list members contact
you, off-list. Please be sure to include your direct email address in the body
of the post.
Thank you,
Mark
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 8:41 PM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Ios 11 beta and airplay and VoiceOver.
Hi!
For you who are testing the latest Ios 11 Public Beta i have a question for you.
If you’re using airplay, does VoiceOver follow the airplay audio so that it
comes through the airplay system instead of the Iphone speaker?
I have this problem and can’t even use the audio routing feature so that
voiceover will stay on the iphone.
I have reported this to apple.
I have another problem where in controlcenter i cant select any airport device
which was possible in ios 10.
/A
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