One other option that I would love to explore are some of the text based file management programs. I remember one from years ago that worked well with speech called Midnight Commander, but there are probably lots more of them out there now. I don't know how well they would work with VO, but I bet it would be pretty nice. On May 9, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi Vic, > > I usually keep the terminal application as one of the apps in my dock, or > your can launch it from Finder by using Command-Shift-U (the shortcut for the > Utilities folder), then pressing "T" (to go to terminal), followed by > Command-Down Arrow (to launch). The default Unix shell you're using supports > tab completion of path and filenames. This means that you don't have to type > out long file names or paths in full -- you only need to type as much of the > file or folder name to uniquely specify the file or folder, and then press > the tab key. Let's say that under your home directory you have a folder > called "Documents" and another named "Downloads". You want to move to the > Documents folder to examine some files by using the "cd" command in terminal > to change your directory. On the command line in terminal, you only need to > type "cd" (without quotes) followed by a space followed and then type the > first few letters of the folder "D o c" and then press the tab key. When you > press tab, the rest of the folder name will be supplied by the shell, and you > only need to press the "Return" key to execute the command. If you had just > typed "D o" and pressed tab, you would have been informed of the two folders > that matched your entry, "Downloads" and "Documents", and then you would be > presented with the command you had typed. You could then type the "c" and > press tab (to successfully complete the command) and press "Return" to > execute it. > > Similarly, if I want to navigate to a file within some subfolders, I would > just type the parts of my folders needed to uniquely identify the subfolders, > and press tab to let the system complete the name. Each time I needed to > move to a sub-folder, I would type a slash for the separator, then type a few > letters of the start of the subdirectory name, then press tab, then continue > until the full file path was laid out, at which point I would just press the > "Return" key. > > For example, let's say I wanted to examine files within a folder under my > home account named "Documents/Letters/March" and change to this directory in > the terminal with the command: > cd Documents/Letters/March > I'd actually only type the initial "cd" command, a space, and then "D o c" > before pressing the tab key to let the system fill in "Documents". Then I > would type a slash symbol separator and the letter "L" (if there were no > other sub-folders beginning with that letter), and press the tab key again to > let the shell complete the path to now read "Documents/Letters". For the > last subfolder I would type a slash symbol again, and the letters "M a r" and > press tab. (This assumes that I also have a subfolder named "May" that needs > to be distinguished from "March"). When the path is complete, I just press > "Return" to execute the command to change directory to > "Documents/Letters/March". I've only typed the letters "D o c", "L", and "M > a r" out of the entire path. > > Another thing you can do is use Finder to locate the sub-folder "March", and > copy the entry with Command-C. Then when you switch to Terminal, you type > "cd" with a space, and then paste with Command-V, and press "Return". The > pasted entry will be the full path name. > > You can copy and paste the paths to files and/or folders from Finder to > Terminal. So you could also do this for the "mv" command, if you wanted to > move a specific file to the folder, "Documents/Letters/March". When you do > this the pasted path is the full path name (e.g. "/Users/<your > account>/Documents/Letters/March"). > > HTH. For more information about using the command line in terminal, check > out the Take Control book, "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with > Terminal" ($10.00 list price) by Joe Kissell which is available as a > downloadable PDF file from the Take Control Web site at: > http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line > The web page describes the book's contents and links a sample excerpt. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Tinker Tweak wrote: > >> Larry, >> >> Yes! I just saw the terminal application just tonight. I have the feeling >> that that is something like a command line with a GUI interface. I think >> I'll thrive in it cause I used to be so very comfortable in DOS. Now I have >> to learn the syntax for this OS. Typeing long path and file names will be >> interesting though. Were I 20 years younger, I'd just teach myself >> programming in this platform but now programming was a life lived and not a >> life I'd want to have again.Awe, that old life with ASAP and Pascal >> >> Thank you and so good to have met you here. >> Vic >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Larry Skutchan >> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:00 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: files and folders >> >> Vic, here is a quick and more powerful way to move files and folders. >> Go to the terminal application and learn the file and folder layout there. >> You can use the mv command to do what you need in a very powerful way >> indeed. >> On May 9, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Hi Anne, >>> >>> Thanks for the info. I have been meaning to try Automator out for a while, >> but just never seem to quite get to it. I followed the instructions and >> although it worked, I continue to get some critical error that seems to not >> affect the operation for the most part. I think I need to understand what is >> going on on the backend and that will make this much easier. In other words, >> if I learn the scripting that goes on behind the scenes, I will be able to >> understand what automator is doing. However, very cool and just looking at >> what is available in the automator, it is very powerful and now I have the >> push I needed to find time to study this. >>> >>> THanks, >>> On May 9, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Vic, >>>> >>>> Here's an Automator work flow to do what you want. It was posted by Yuma >> Antoine Decaux a little while ago. >>>> >>>> >>>> 1- Open Automator >>>> 2-It will ask you to choose from a template. Right arrow until you find >> services, then press return. >>>> 3-at this stage, VO should say name. VO right arrow until you are on the >> actions description split view. interact with it >>>> 4-you should be now in action library view. interact with it. Its an >> expandable element. go down to files and folders. >>>> 5-VO right arrow till you get to the actions, and choose down the list to >> move finder items. Note:at this stage, things might seem a bit sluggish, but >> it will go away, and only happens once every 3rd session. >>>> 6-press return. you should now have created an action to define, and VO >> should say move finder items. Interact with it >>>> 7-VO left until VO says text in service action selected any application >> replaces selected text. This is a group you interact with, in which there >> are static texts and pressable dropbox menus. >>>> 8-VO to text, VO space bar and choose files and folders in the list. Then >> VO right to any applications, VO space bar again and choose finder in the >> list of choices. >>>> 9-stop interacting with the group, VO right to move finder items, and >> interact with that. >>>> 10-go right until you find the options check box. check it. >>>> -11-VO right to show this action when the workflow runs. >>>> 13-save the file with command S, call the service whatever you want. >>>> >>>> You will now have a service for moving files and folders in your >> contextual menu VO shift M, or control mouse click. >>>> >>>> If you want something faster than a contextual menu, you can bind the >> automator service to a keypress. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> On May 9, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm really thunderstruck and I don't know what to say. How does one do >>>>> without this basic function of computing then?I think I don't like the >>>>> derection this is headed but I am here now so what would be my options >>>>> towards getting my work done in an efficient manner? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Again, thanks for any help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vic >>>>> >>>>> _____ >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:53 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .sadly you cannot cut and paste. I don't like it but that's just the way >> it >>>>> is. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> take care. >>>>> >>>>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> First I tried command-x only to realize that it is dimmed out on the >> edit >>>>> menu. Command-c and command-v works though but without the command-x, I >> have >>>>> to go back to the folder where I coppied the files to delete all the >> files I >>>>> just copied to the other folder. It is taking so much time cause it is >>>>> acctually copying the files instead of just changing the point of >> reference >>>>> as command-x then command-c will do. Is there a setting I am missing? >> Why is >>>>> my edit menu having this dimmed item? It is tedious to be going back and >>>>> forth folders first to select then copy, go to another folder and >> paste, >>>>> then go back to the source files and delete but right now, that is the >> only >>>>> way I know And there is very little I do know cause it is all new to me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The second that I tried is to learn or at least try my skills at drag >> and >>>>> drop but I haven't gotten the hang of it yet so far. What am I doing >> wrong? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> _____ >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf OfRob Lambert >>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:57 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What methods have you tried thus far? >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Tinker Tweak <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All! >>>>> >>>>> I'm a new Apple switcher and I like it very much. Its just been a week >> since >>>>> I got a new Macbook pro and I've been learning fairly quickly if I may >> say >>>>> so myself. I love challenges and this thing about learning the operating >>>>> system plus its screen reader surely qualifies for one big challenge >> indeed. >>>>> So far I've been doing very well until I ran into a problem with cutting >> and >>>>> pasting with in the Finder. I can't make it to work no matter how I >> try. I >>>>> have to learn how to do this cause my work involves moving lots and >> lots of >>>>> files and folders all day. I'd truly appreciate it if someone can help >> me >>>>> learn how to move files and folders. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Vic >>>>> >>>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
