Hello, I have downloaded a program, (a collection of workflows) on www.automation.com. The name of the package is: UNIX Services Installer.pkg
This package add some services in all applications and you can add a hockey to it with the keyboard option in the system preferences. I use very often the service: "new terminal to insert location" I have add a hockey to it and: When I am in finder on my usbdisk, I press the hockey and terminal is opening on that folder without doing a sudo-command or a cd-command. This is very nice if you want e.g. to change the extension of multiple files or remove multiple files. I can do e.g.: rm *.ini, to remove all .ini-files in the current directory. This goes much faster then selecting every ini-file in the finder. I am very happy with this. But, I have still another frustration in the terminal with vo: While using "Vim", the default editor of a unix-terminal or perhaps some other programs in the terminal, there is no vo-function to jump to the cursor. I mean, while reading a text in vim with the brailledisplay or perhaps the vo-arrows, you can move around the text without limitations so, also in areas where the keyboard-cursor can't come. Then, you need a function to jump to the position where the keyboard-focus is putted the last time you have moved the keyboard-focus. I don't know any function in vo that can do this task. If someone has some ideas, pls let me know, on the list or private. best regards, William Op 10-mei-2010, om 11:23 heeft Larry Skutchan het volgende geschreven: > One other option that I would love to explore are some of the text based file > management programs. I remember one from years ago that worked well with > speech called Midnight Commander, but there are probably lots more of them > out there now. I don't know how well they would work with VO, but I bet it > would be pretty nice. > On May 9, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Vic, >> >> I usually keep the terminal application as one of the apps in my dock, or >> your can launch it from Finder by using Command-Shift-U (the shortcut for >> the Utilities folder), then pressing "T" (to go to terminal), followed by >> Command-Down Arrow (to launch). The default Unix shell you're using >> supports tab completion of path and filenames. This means that you don't >> have to type out long file names or paths in full -- you only need to type >> as much of the file or folder name to uniquely specify the file or folder, >> and then press the tab key. Let's say that under your home directory you >> have a folder called "Documents" and another named "Downloads". You want to >> move to the Documents folder to examine some files by using the "cd" command >> in terminal to change your directory. On the command line in terminal, you >> only need to type "cd" (without quotes) followed by a space followed and >> then type the first few letters of the folder "D o c" and then press the tab >> key. When you press tab, the rest of the folder name will be supplied by >> the shell, and you only need to press the "Return" key to execute the >> command. If you had just typed "D o" and pressed tab, you would have been >> informed of the two folders that matched your entry, "Downloads" and >> "Documents", and then you would be presented with the command you had typed. >> You could then type the "c" and press tab (to successfully complete the >> command) and press "Return" to execute it. >> >> Similarly, if I want to navigate to a file within some subfolders, I would >> just type the parts of my folders needed to uniquely identify the >> subfolders, and press tab to let the system complete the name. Each time I >> needed to move to a sub-folder, I would type a slash for the separator, then >> type a few letters of the start of the subdirectory name, then press tab, >> then continue until the full file path was laid out, at which point I would >> just press the "Return" key. >> >> For example, let's say I wanted to examine files within a folder under my >> home account named "Documents/Letters/March" and change to this directory in >> the terminal with the command: >> cd Documents/Letters/March >> I'd actually only type the initial "cd" command, a space, and then "D o c" >> before pressing the tab key to let the system fill in "Documents". Then I >> would type a slash symbol separator and the letter "L" (if there were no >> other sub-folders beginning with that letter), and press the tab key again >> to let the shell complete the path to now read "Documents/Letters". For the >> last subfolder I would type a slash symbol again, and the letters "M a r" >> and press tab. (This assumes that I also have a subfolder named "May" that >> needs to be distinguished from "March"). When the path is complete, I just >> press "Return" to execute the command to change directory to >> "Documents/Letters/March". I've only typed the letters "D o c", "L", and "M >> a r" out of the entire path. >> >> Another thing you can do is use Finder to locate the sub-folder "March", and >> copy the entry with Command-C. Then when you switch to Terminal, you type >> "cd" with a space, and then paste with Command-V, and press "Return". The >> pasted entry will be the full path name. >> >> You can copy and paste the paths to files and/or folders from Finder to >> Terminal. So you could also do this for the "mv" command, if you wanted to >> move a specific file to the folder, "Documents/Letters/March". When you do >> this the pasted path is the full path name (e.g. "/Users/<your >> account>/Documents/Letters/March"). >> >> HTH. For more information about using the command line in terminal, check >> out the Take Control book, "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with >> Terminal" ($10.00 list price) by Joe Kissell which is available as a >> downloadable PDF file from the Take Control Web site at: >> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line >> The web page describes the book's contents and links a sample excerpt. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> Tinker Tweak wrote: >> >>> Larry, >>> >>> Yes! I just saw the terminal application just tonight. I have the feeling >>> that that is something like a command line with a GUI interface. I think >>> I'll thrive in it cause I used to be so very comfortable in DOS. Now I have >>> to learn the syntax for this OS. Typeing long path and file names will be >>> interesting though. Were I 20 years younger, I'd just teach myself >>> programming in this platform but now programming was a life lived and not a >>> life I'd want to have again.Awe, that old life with ASAP and Pascal >>> >>> Thank you and so good to have met you here. >>> Vic >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Skutchan >>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:00 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>> >>> Vic, here is a quick and more powerful way to move files and folders. >>> Go to the terminal application and learn the file and folder layout there. >>> You can use the mv command to do what you need in a very powerful way >>> indeed. >>> On May 9, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Anne, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the info. I have been meaning to try Automator out for a while, >>> but just never seem to quite get to it. I followed the instructions and >>> although it worked, I continue to get some critical error that seems to not >>> affect the operation for the most part. I think I need to understand what is >>> going on on the backend and that will make this much easier. In other words, >>> if I learn the scripting that goes on behind the scenes, I will be able to >>> understand what automator is doing. However, very cool and just looking at >>> what is available in the automator, it is very powerful and now I have the >>> push I needed to find time to study this. >>>> >>>> THanks, >>>> On May 9, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Vic, >>>>> >>>>> Here's an Automator work flow to do what you want. It was posted by Yuma >>> Antoine Decaux a little while ago. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1- Open Automator >>>>> 2-It will ask you to choose from a template. Right arrow until you find >>> services, then press return. >>>>> 3-at this stage, VO should say name. VO right arrow until you are on the >>> actions description split view. interact with it >>>>> 4-you should be now in action library view. interact with it. Its an >>> expandable element. go down to files and folders. >>>>> 5-VO right arrow till you get to the actions, and choose down the list to >>> move finder items. Note:at this stage, things might seem a bit sluggish, but >>> it will go away, and only happens once every 3rd session. >>>>> 6-press return. you should now have created an action to define, and VO >>> should say move finder items. Interact with it >>>>> 7-VO left until VO says text in service action selected any application >>> replaces selected text. This is a group you interact with, in which there >>> are static texts and pressable dropbox menus. >>>>> 8-VO to text, VO space bar and choose files and folders in the list. Then >>> VO right to any applications, VO space bar again and choose finder in the >>> list of choices. >>>>> 9-stop interacting with the group, VO right to move finder items, and >>> interact with that. >>>>> 10-go right until you find the options check box. check it. >>>>> -11-VO right to show this action when the workflow runs. >>>>> 13-save the file with command S, call the service whatever you want. >>>>> >>>>> You will now have a service for moving files and folders in your >>> contextual menu VO shift M, or control mouse click. >>>>> >>>>> If you want something faster than a contextual menu, you can bind the >>> automator service to a keypress. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> On May 9, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm really thunderstruck and I don't know what to say. How does one do >>>>>> without this basic function of computing then?I think I don't like the >>>>>> derection this is headed but I am here now so what would be my options >>>>>> towards getting my work done in an efficient manner? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, thanks for any help. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Vic >>>>>> >>>>>> _____ >>>>>> >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:53 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> .sadly you cannot cut and paste. I don't like it but that's just the way >>> it >>>>>> is. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> take care. >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 9, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> First I tried command-x only to realize that it is dimmed out on the >>> edit >>>>>> menu. Command-c and command-v works though but without the command-x, I >>> have >>>>>> to go back to the folder where I coppied the files to delete all the >>> files I >>>>>> just copied to the other folder. It is taking so much time cause it is >>>>>> acctually copying the files instead of just changing the point of >>> reference >>>>>> as command-x then command-c will do. Is there a setting I am missing? >>> Why is >>>>>> my edit menu having this dimmed item? It is tedious to be going back and >>>>>> forth folders first to select then copy, go to another folder and >>> paste, >>>>>> then go back to the source files and delete but right now, that is the >>> only >>>>>> way I know And there is very little I do know cause it is all new to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The second that I tried is to learn or at least try my skills at drag >>> and >>>>>> drop but I haven't gotten the hang of it yet so far. What am I doing >>> wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> _____ >>>>>> >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfRob Lambert >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:57 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: files and folders >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What methods have you tried thus far? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Tinker Tweak <tinkertw...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All! >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm a new Apple switcher and I like it very much. Its just been a week >>> since >>>>>> I got a new Macbook pro and I've been learning fairly quickly if I may >>> say >>>>>> so myself. I love challenges and this thing about learning the operating >>>>>> system plus its screen reader surely qualifies for one big challenge >>> indeed. >>>>>> So far I've been doing very well until I ran into a problem with cutting >>> and >>>>>> pasting with in the Finder. I can't make it to work no matter how I >>> try. I >>>>>> have to learn how to do this cause my work involves moving lots and >>> lots of >>>>>> files and folders all day. I'd truly appreciate it if someone can help >>> me >>>>>> learn how to move files and folders. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Vic >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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