zack, I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, and not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously considering dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been occurring with such frequency that I might as well keep my machine off then use it (more than 20 times a day). I use this machine as often as I do because I simply don't have a windows machine and my powerbook is linux only now (no voiceover support for 10.3.9).
so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another $1,500 to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I don't have the money, I don't see a lot of choices. -Eric On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Eric, > I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, but I > haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often as others > here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two solves it. > Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose our sense of > perspective. It could be much worse, we could be stuck on Windows with a > screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes requires us to > reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. > Best, > Zack. > On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have >> seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. it >> appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, it is >> annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its gotten bad >> enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs directly. perhaps >> he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to make this a priority,. >> perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner enough attention that >> apple Inc. would have to do something about this problem. >> >> -Eric >> >> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described might >>> at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time Voice Over >>> abandons me. Thank you very much. >>> >>> To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover has >>> been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just press >>> Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since "Shut >>> Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will definitely post a >>> message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of something they >>> probably already know by now. >>> >>> My best to all and thanks again, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mike, >>>> >>>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way to >>>> get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This starts >>>> the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press escape and >>>> VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon. >>>> >>>> It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on my >>>> iMac. >>>> >>>> Robert Carter >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For reasons >>>>> I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, especially when I am >>>>> using Mail. >>>>> >>>>> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to >>>>> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command F5 >>>>> until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance is apparently >>>>> random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be causing >>>>> it? 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