Hello, I too suffer this, but not often enough to be a real problem.
Eric, Do you leave your Mac on for long periods of time? Do you use sleep more than shutdown? Do you have one or more VMs using a lot of RAM? I wonder if this is some kind of memory leak problem, in VO or somewhere else in SL? I have the feeling whenever it happened to me I had the Mac running for some time - I mostly use it after work hours and always shutdown instead of sleep. HTH, André On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > the problems appear at random but with increasing frequency. > I'd take a trip to my local apple store, but its like 40 miles across town > and I don't venture out much during the day (my eyes hurt too damned much). > > I have run all the maintenance tools here. so far, nothing is detected as > being wrong. in fact, VO just dropped out on me while typing the last > sentence. > > I don't have any concurrent systems running here. I don't even own a copy of > windows. > > right now, re-installing would be a major PITA. I have too much work on my > drive and no place to back it up to. > > -Eric > > On Mar 14, 2011, at 11:54 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Eric >> >> Have you tried some of the general maintenance things such as utilities >> first aid, verifying and repairing permissions, or doing any re-installs? >> It would seem to me that if this problem is occurring that often, you could >> get it to reproduce for one of the geniuses at your Apple store and seek >> some resolution. If you are running windows on this machine, is it possible >> that there is a conflict caused by the two systems clashing? >> Just a couple of my thoughts. >> Carolyn HOn Mar 14, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >> >>> zack, >>> I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, >>> and not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously >>> considering dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been >>> occurring with such frequency that I might as well keep my machine off then >>> use it (more than 20 times a day). I use this machine as often as I do >>> because I simply don't have a windows machine and my powerbook is linux >>> only now (no voiceover support for 10.3.9). >>> >>> so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 >>> machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another >>> $1,500 to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I >>> don't have the money, I don't see a lot of choices. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Eric, >>>> I think you're overstating the case a bit here... Yes, it's annoying, but >>>> I haven't found it that annoying. I haven't experienced it as often as >>>> others here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two >>>> solves it. Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not loose >>>> our sense of perspective. It could be much worse, we could be stuck on >>>> Windows with a screen reader not built into the OS, which when it freezes >>>> requires us to reboot the system completely. I'll stop now. >>>> Best, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: >>>> >>>>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I have >>>>> seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better with time. >>>>> it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. in any case, >>>>> it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to accessibility. its >>>>> gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug reports to steve jobs >>>>> directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift kick in the pants to >>>>> make this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would do so, it would garner >>>>> enough attention that apple Inc. would have to do something about this >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> -Eric >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described >>>>>> might at least be a usable work-around. I will try it the next time >>>>>> Voice Over abandons me. Thank you very much. >>>>>> >>>>>> To all of you who wrote, thank you. Sometimes, the only way to recover >>>>>> has been to just hit the Power key, wait a second or so and then just >>>>>> press Enter. Not an elegant solution, but at least it has worked since >>>>>> "Shut Down" is the default selection in this dialogue.. I will >>>>>> definitely post a message to the Accessibility Group, apprising them of >>>>>> something they probably already know by now. >>>>>> >>>>>> My best to all and thanks again, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14,Mar,2011, at 4:50 PM, Robert Carter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have this problem on my MacBook as well. I find that the easiest way >>>>>>> to get VoiceOver restarted is to press control+option+command+f8. This >>>>>>> starts the VoiceOver tutorial. As soon as the tutorial starts, press >>>>>>> escape and VoiceOver will restart. I hope this problem gets fixed soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It must be unique to the MacBooks as I cannot produce the problem on my >>>>>>> iMac. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robert Carter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am using Snow Leopard V 10.6.6 on a Mac Book with 4 GB/RAM. For >>>>>>>> reasons I do not understand, I occasionally lose Voice Over, >>>>>>>> especially when I am using Mail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Though the problem is not limited to Mail, Voice Over just seems to >>>>>>>> "unload itself," and the only thing I can do is repeatedly hit Command >>>>>>>> F5 until VO decides to make an appearance. Its disappearance is >>>>>>>> apparently random, i.e. I can't make it disappear at will. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? If not, what might be >>>>>>>> causing it? 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