Hello Daniel and others,
The situation is that I have adjusted the settings of vo on sl after doing a 
upgrade to Lion So, the lion-functions where included. Then I exported this 
vo-settings to a file , under the upgraded Lion.
When I was importing that file in a clean install of Lion, none of the 
commander-parrameters, where imported I think. I am shore about my trackpad 
commands that none of them was imported and this is frustrating.
Is there no manipulation possible by copying some file(s) or folder(s) from the 
Lion upgrade to the clean install of Lion?

Any hints should be very welcome,

kind regards,
William 
Op 14-nov.-2011, om 11:40 heeft Daniel Miller het volgende geschreven:

> Hi,
> Since they're settings that you made in SL, no, they won't be completely
> imported in Lion. However, if you remake the .voprefs file from within Lion,
> they'll work fine. This is how it's intended to be, I'd guess, but I could
> be wrong.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Windels
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 3:30 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: importing vo-prefferences was: Pianopub issues was: Preparing
> for clean lion install
> 
> Hello all,
> about doing a clean install, I have noticed that I can't import all my
> vo-settings , saved in a .voprefs file into a clean install of Lion.
> Specially, I discover that the commander-settings are not imported.
>  I have also tried to import only the trackpad-commands of a sl-install but
> none of them where detected.
> 
> Is it a known problem that vo-settings can't be imported completely in Lion
> and , if this is so, is there a solution/workaround?
> Accessibility knows about this but isn't doing more then reading my possible
> bug report.
> kind regards,
> William Windels
> 
> Op 13-nov.-2011, om 23:28 heeft Missy Hoppe het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> I'm using 1.5. It didn't work under snow leopard, though. I just kept 
>> getting the problem reporter. I've found that if I turn off voice over and
> turn it back on, then Piano Pub reads the way it used to, but  I don't think
> I should  have to do that.
>> I'm going to try to get everything fully up and running, though, since 
>> I know I'll have to eventually adopt lion anyway. I guess my main 
>> point is that in my case the clean install hasn't made any discernible
> difference over the upgrade I did back in july.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:04 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Preparing for clean lion install
>> 
>> Missy,
>> What version of PianoPub do you have? A friend and I are using version
> 1.5, and it's working beautifully.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:00 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Preparing for clean lion install
>> 
>> I am using piano pub. That's actually what prompted me to attempt the 
>> clean lion install; Piano Pub no longer supports Snow Leopard. Under 
>> Snow Leopard, it read beautifully, but for some reason, under lion, there
> are just images where the title and artist info should be.
>> I'm going to keep trying to get lion configured, though, now that I spent
> an intire day reinstalling it.
>> Thanks!
>> Missy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:11 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Preparing for clean lion install
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Use PianoPub, it's more accessible than Pandora.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:22 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In Users & Groups, Interact with the Users, Groups and Login Options 
>> List, and navigate down to Login Options.  stop Interacting With the List
> then navigate right until you locate the "Use VoiceOver at Login" checkbox.
>> 
>> Sorry, I can't help with Pandora, I don't use it.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2011-11-13, at 12:10 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi! I have no idea why vo doesn't always speak it's welcome message; 
>>> it almost always starts, but as I said, it's usually stuck in some 
>>> weird window that doesn't exist, so I have to command tab before I 
>>> can do
>> anything; and I have no clue when it's OK to do that command tab since VO
> almost never says anything.
>>> I went through users and groups, but didn't find  anything pertaining 
>>> to vo. I'll look again, just in case I missed something, but since 
>>> I'm not noticing any improvements, I don't know how much time I'll 
>>> put into getting this fresh install up and running. The main thing I 
>>> was
>> curious about was if it would change/improve the way my pandora app 
>> read, and that did not improve in any way. Thanks for the help, though.
> I'll try to investigate things a little bit further.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:04 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The option you're looking for in System Preferences is Users & Groups.
>>> Lion has made this option more in line with servers and other OS's 
>>> that use that terminology.  I'm not sure why your computer has the 
>>> "hit and miss" when it comes to VO turning on automatically, I've 
>>> only experienced this when a specific error message has circumvented 
>>> VO from
>> starting right away.  In these cases, I just pressed cmd-f5, VO came 
>> on, I determined the error type and eliminated it so that VO behaved as it
> should.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2011-11-13, at 10:18 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello, all. I did the clean install of lion last night as planned, 
>>>> and so far, I must say that I think it was a complete waste of time.
>>>> VO sspeaking at start-up is still hit or miss, and I now find myself 
>>>> stuck in something called T.I. switcher; basicly the exact same 
>>>> problem as the com.doc.apple.extra that existed when lion first came 
>>>> out. The system preferences window seems to have been completely 
>>>> rearranged, and I'm having trouble finding things: most
>>> noteably where I turn on the option for VO to speak log in windows.
>>> Since I don't have to log on, it wouldn't be a problem, but it 
>>> becomes an
>> issue if I'm installing updates that require the machine to be restarted.
>>>> I've installed all of the newest updates, and I do intend to install 
>>>> a few apps just to say I've made a legitimate effort, but in 
>>>> retrospect, I should have left well enough alone. Thankfully, I 
>>>> cloned my SL drive before all this started, but so far, I'm very 
>>>> disappointed in the lack of difference between the upgrade of lion 
>>>> and the
>>> clean install. At least based on my experience so far, I have to 
>>> agree with the folks at apple on this one; upgrading is better.
>>>> If anyone could provide any insite on what I'm doing wrong and why 
>>>> lion is still such a tremendous disappointment, I would really 
>>>> appreciate it. For now, though, I'm off to find the install of CCC.
>>>> I've
>> got a feeling I'm going to need it in a few days.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:48 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Preparing for clean lion install
>>>> 
>>>> The best thing you could do is install all the apps from scratch.
>>>> After all if your going to go through all the trouble, you might as 
>>>> well start with a truly fresh system. Otherwise, you will be copying 
>>>> things by hand and you may not get everything
>>> necessary. If nothing else, you will have learned from the experience 
>>> and
>> that itself is worth the effort.
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Good evening, all. I'm highly skeptical that this is going to do 
>>>>> any good, but just because I want to say I've made the effort, I'm 
>>>>> getting ready to do a clean install of lion. While I'm doing all my 
>>>>> prep
>> work:
>>>>> cloning to external drives to make sure I don't lose anything, I'm 
>>>>> going to listen to Mike's podcast on Lion. I just wanted to write 
>>>>> to the group, though, because I'm curious how I'll go about putting 
>>>>> back apps. Can I restore them from the cloned drives, or do I have 
>>>>> to actually reinstall things? More than anything else, I'm 
>>>>> concerned about the Acapella voices I purchased to use with my mac,
>>>> but wouldn't mind tips about adium, skype and things of that nature.
>>>> Also, how do I back up my Itunes purchases. Granted, I've only made 
>>>> two of them, but I don't want to lose them. What about Growl and 
>>>> Yorufukuru? Will I just get those from the app store
>>> again?
>>>>> I've got 2 external drives handy, so I'm backing up not only my 
>>>>> current lion install, but also my perfect and up-to-date SL install.
>>>>> That way, if the clean install still isn't
>>>> satisfactory, I can put everything back the way it was.
>>>>> Any advice will be extremely appreciated. I just keep reminding 
>>>>> myself that there's no way I can possibly render the mac entirely 
>>>>> useless, but I don't want to lose any apps, especially not ones 
>>>>> that cost money. So, if anyone has any instructions to share, I
>>>> would be extremely greatful. Also, once I use my CD, will lion be 
>>>> able to
>> update itself to 7.2?
>>>>> OK. Sorry for the rambling, disjointed message. I just am trying 
>>>>> this to give Lion another chance to get into my good
>>>> graces.
>>>>> Thank you all very much for your time, and I hope that everyone is
>> having a great day!
>>>>> Missy
>>>>> 
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