Yuma,

Goo point and I have not entirely decided, but seems the extra cost is pretty 
absurd, but it seems the DNS services may work. However, seriously I have not 
made any definite plans yet. At the end of the day I would gladly pay the money 
if I got what I wanted without jumping through endless hoops. Nothing like 
having all your crap broken over some free service and my stupidity for trying 
to save money. :)

THanks,

On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> This means you got to forward all vpn ports to the machine via a dynamic ip. 
> It's fine for you to have a domain name but it needs to be constantly updated 
> as your isp will change it anytime it demands for it. SO you either have to 
> find a dynamic ip solution around the web which itself costs money or go for 
> the static ip route, whichever might be most cost effective, but if you 
> actually have a server at home, why not just use the static ip to avoid 
> conflicts or issues of inaccessibility with dunamic ip switching apps?
> 
> 
> Just a thought 
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> 
> On 22/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> TIm,
>> 
>> THanks you answered some of the questions I asked, so saves Yuma. :) I did 
>> find the Admin tools, but will have to look for the other tools.
>> 
>> So, let me explain a bit about what I'm trying to do. I will keep this 
>> pretty short, but essentially I wanted to look at the possibility of setting 
>> up a VPN that I could access using my iOS devices etc. when at a location 
>> with an open WiFI, which of course there are just some things you would not 
>> do in that environment unless you had a VPN.
>> SO, I heard a podcast where these guys explained how they did this using 
>> Lion Server and DYNDNS.org. However, the problem I had to resolve is setting 
>> up my network so I could access the VPN. Of course this means I have to get 
>> Lion Server, but also means I have to totally reconfigure things.
>> I have a SMC gateway from COmcast and apparently the only way I can pull 
>> this off is to move my Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme into the DNZ. SO, I'd 
>> setup my AirPort in the DMZ and move all the machines behind that APple 
>> router which is how I had things setup in the past. This way I can totally 
>> bypass the SMC since I cannot put it in bridge mode unless I want to spend 
>> $15 a month for one static IP and I think not. Then I can use DYDNS or 
>> possibly the one free domain COmcast gives me as a part of my business-class 
>> acount and use that as the means to get back to my network via the VPN. Oh 
>> and the gent who set all this up is a IT security professional. So, this aut 
>> to be quite interesting. ALthough it sounds like Lion Server might add some 
>> other functionality that would be handy like updating the other Macs in the 
>> house instead of me running around updating stuff by hand. More long-term is 
>> the ability to manage iOS devices and the like as well.
>> What would be really interesting is if I setup an iCal server and hooked 
>> everyone to that in the house, how that plays with iCloud. Hmmmm, this is 
>> all quite interesting.
>> 
>> THanks,
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Two things to add to Yuma's useful message.  I use Server Admin Tools to 
>>> manage more advanced services than the Server app allows and I've had no 
>>> issues at all with accessibility within Server Admin Tools.  For the User 
>>> and Preference Management, I use Work Group Manager (WGM) which, other than 
>>> the User/Group/Computer management is very accessible.  The Preference 
>>> Management controls aren't initially visible to VO in WGM but I have worked 
>>> around this for the most part though using mouse keys.  Once you navigate 
>>> to the correct spot on the screen using mouse keys, you click the mouse 
>>> button itself or press the "5" key and the preference controls become 
>>> totally accessible.  I use Leopard, Snow Leopard and Lion server at 
>>> work/school to manage much of our network.  As Yuma mentioned, the 
>>> integrated Server App does the job for basic services but I'm quite used to 
>>> using Server Admin and WGM, which are a free download from Apple, that I 
>>> continue to use them with Lion Server as well.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-21, at 2:18 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a macbox with lion server which i use for several network services 
>>>> including afp over internet, security cameras, ical server, directory 
>>>> services , airprint and others.
>>>> 
>>>> As a previous snow leopard server user, the integrated server suite isn't 
>>>> as comprehensive but if you are just looking to deploy standard services 
>>>> over your home network it does the job. It could have some general 
>>>> improvements in the interface, and user preferences aren't accessible 
>>>> though you can workaround it via the unix shell.
>>>> 
>>>> If you do want more advanced control, you definetely need unix knowhow but 
>>>> having that in tow makes the server pretty damn powerful.
>>>> 
>>>> There are no power management controls yet which is my main gripe, but it 
>>>> seems to manage it rather well by default as i have quite a few devices 
>>>> hooked to it and they all cycle only when necessary.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this gives you an overview.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh wait scott, i know you!!!! Lol 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yuma 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am just curious if anyone has used Lion Server and if they encountered 
>>>>> any major accessibility issues. I'm not interested in debating if Lion 
>>>>> Server is better than a Linux box etc. just want to know if there are any 
>>>>> major concerns.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> 
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