Hi,

I agree.  Static IP is the way to go.  It's far more reliable and much less 
hassle in the long run.  With respect to MCX preferences and such, I've found 
it much easier to use WGM than Terminal.  I'm just not good enough at the 
Terminal to dig as deep as needed to perform these tasks using Terminal.  Once 
you get past the initial accessibility issues in the Preferences tab of WGM, 
the rest is very accessible and very powerful.

Just my opinion, of course and, you will probably not need this functionality 
anyway.

Later...

On 2012-01-21, at 7:05 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> This means you got to forward all vpn ports to the machine via a dynamic ip. 
> It's fine for you to have a domain name but it needs to be constantly updated 
> as your isp will change it anytime it demands for it. SO you either have to 
> find a dynamic ip solution around the web which itself costs money or go for 
> the static ip route, whichever might be most cost effective, but if you 
> actually have a server at home, why not just use the static ip to avoid 
> conflicts or issues of inaccessibility with dunamic ip switching apps?
> 
> 
> Just a thought 
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> 
> On 22/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> TIm,
>> 
>> THanks you answered some of the questions I asked, so saves Yuma. :) I did 
>> find the Admin tools, but will have to look for the other tools.
>> 
>> So, let me explain a bit about what I'm trying to do. I will keep this 
>> pretty short, but essentially I wanted to look at the possibility of setting 
>> up a VPN that I could access using my iOS devices etc. when at a location 
>> with an open WiFI, which of course there are just some things you would not 
>> do in that environment unless you had a VPN.
>> SO, I heard a podcast where these guys explained how they did this using 
>> Lion Server and DYNDNS.org. However, the problem I had to resolve is setting 
>> up my network so I could access the VPN. Of course this means I have to get 
>> Lion Server, but also means I have to totally reconfigure things.
>> I have a SMC gateway from COmcast and apparently the only way I can pull 
>> this off is to move my Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme into the DNZ. SO, I'd 
>> setup my AirPort in the DMZ and move all the machines behind that APple 
>> router which is how I had things setup in the past. This way I can totally 
>> bypass the SMC since I cannot put it in bridge mode unless I want to spend 
>> $15 a month for one static IP and I think not. Then I can use DYDNS or 
>> possibly the one free domain COmcast gives me as a part of my business-class 
>> acount and use that as the means to get back to my network via the VPN. Oh 
>> and the gent who set all this up is a IT security professional. So, this aut 
>> to be quite interesting. ALthough it sounds like Lion Server might add some 
>> other functionality that would be handy like updating the other Macs in the 
>> house instead of me running around updating stuff by hand. More long-term is 
>> the ability to manage iOS devices and the like as well.
>> What would be really interesting is if I setup an iCal server and hooked 
>> everyone to that in the house, how that plays with iCloud. Hmmmm, this is 
>> all quite interesting.
>> 
>> THanks,
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Two things to add to Yuma's useful message.  I use Server Admin Tools to 
>>> manage more advanced services than the Server app allows and I've had no 
>>> issues at all with accessibility within Server Admin Tools.  For the User 
>>> and Preference Management, I use Work Group Manager (WGM) which, other than 
>>> the User/Group/Computer management is very accessible.  The Preference 
>>> Management controls aren't initially visible to VO in WGM but I have worked 
>>> around this for the most part though using mouse keys.  Once you navigate 
>>> to the correct spot on the screen using mouse keys, you click the mouse 
>>> button itself or press the "5" key and the preference controls become 
>>> totally accessible.  I use Leopard, Snow Leopard and Lion server at 
>>> work/school to manage much of our network.  As Yuma mentioned, the 
>>> integrated Server App does the job for basic services but I'm quite used to 
>>> using Server Admin and WGM, which are a free download from Apple, that I 
>>> continue to use them with Lion Server as well.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2012-01-21, at 2:18 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a macbox with lion server which i use for several network services 
>>>> including afp over internet, security cameras, ical server, directory 
>>>> services , airprint and others.
>>>> 
>>>> As a previous snow leopard server user, the integrated server suite isn't 
>>>> as comprehensive but if you are just looking to deploy standard services 
>>>> over your home network it does the job. It could have some general 
>>>> improvements in the interface, and user preferences aren't accessible 
>>>> though you can workaround it via the unix shell.
>>>> 
>>>> If you do want more advanced control, you definetely need unix knowhow but 
>>>> having that in tow makes the server pretty damn powerful.
>>>> 
>>>> There are no power management controls yet which is my main gripe, but it 
>>>> seems to manage it rather well by default as i have quite a few devices 
>>>> hooked to it and they all cycle only when necessary.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this gives you an overview.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh wait scott, i know you!!!! Lol 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yuma 
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am just curious if anyone has used Lion Server and if they encountered 
>>>>> any major accessibility issues. I'm not interested in debating if Lion 
>>>>> Server is better than a Linux box etc. just want to know if there are any 
>>>>> major concerns.
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> 
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