You might also check out the SLA with your service provider. Usually if you have a consumer connection using DHCP to assign you some random IP address they have clauses in the contract that say you can't host servers or somesuch. Around here going with a commercial account from Cox cable was $30/month more than the consumer stuff, provided a static IP with DNS and no restrictions on what I do with the bandwidth. In other words, just because you can work around the technical problems of DHCP address changes with DynDNS and the like doesn't mean you are allowed to do it.

CB

On 1/21/12 9:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Yuma,

Goo point and I have not entirely decided, but seems the extra cost is pretty 
absurd, but it seems the DNS services may work. However, seriously I have not 
made any definite plans yet. At the end of the day I would gladly pay the money 
if I got what I wanted without jumping through endless hoops. Nothing like 
having all your crap broken over some free service and my stupidity for trying 
to save money. :)

THanks,

On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

Scott,

This means you got to forward all vpn ports to the machine via a dynamic ip. 
It's fine for you to have a domain name but it needs to be constantly updated 
as your isp will change it anytime it demands for it. SO you either have to 
find a dynamic ip solution around the web which itself costs money or go for 
the static ip route, whichever might be most cost effective, but if you 
actually have a server at home, why not just use the static ip to avoid 
conflicts or issues of inaccessibility with dunamic ip switching apps?


Just a thought

Yuma



On 22/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

TIm,

THanks you answered some of the questions I asked, so saves Yuma. :) I did find 
the Admin tools, but will have to look for the other tools.

So, let me explain a bit about what I'm trying to do. I will keep this pretty 
short, but essentially I wanted to look at the possibility of setting up a VPN 
that I could access using my iOS devices etc. when at a location with an open 
WiFI, which of course there are just some things you would not do in that 
environment unless you had a VPN.
SO, I heard a podcast where these guys explained how they did this using Lion 
Server and DYNDNS.org. However, the problem I had to resolve is setting up my 
network so I could access the VPN. Of course this means I have to get Lion 
Server, but also means I have to totally reconfigure things.
I have a SMC gateway from COmcast and apparently the only way I can pull this 
off is to move my Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme into the DNZ. SO, I'd setup 
my AirPort in the DMZ and move all the machines behind that APple router which 
is how I had things setup in the past. This way I can totally bypass the SMC 
since I cannot put it in bridge mode unless I want to spend $15 a month for one 
static IP and I think not. Then I can use DYDNS or possibly the one free domain 
COmcast gives me as a part of my business-class acount and use that as the 
means to get back to my network via the VPN. Oh and the gent who set all this 
up is a IT security professional. So, this aut to be quite interesting. 
ALthough it sounds like Lion Server might add some other functionality that 
would be handy like updating the other Macs in the house instead of me running 
around updating stuff by hand. More long-term is the ability to manage iOS 
devices and the like as well.
What would be really interesting is if I setup an iCal server and hooked 
everyone to that in the house, how that plays with iCloud. Hmmmm, this is all 
quite interesting.

THanks,

On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Two things to add to Yuma's useful message.  I use Server Admin Tools to manage more 
advanced services than the Server app allows and I've had no issues at all with 
accessibility within Server Admin Tools.  For the User and Preference Management, I use 
Work Group Manager (WGM) which, other than the User/Group/Computer management is very 
accessible.  The Preference Management controls aren't initially visible to VO in WGM but 
I have worked around this for the most part though using mouse keys.  Once you navigate 
to the correct spot on the screen using mouse keys, you click the mouse button itself or 
press the "5" key and the preference controls become totally accessible.  I use 
Leopard, Snow Leopard and Lion server at work/school to manage much of our network.  As 
Yuma mentioned, the integrated Server App does the job for basic services but I'm quite 
used to using Server Admin and WGM, which are a free download from Apple, that I continue 
to use them with Lion Server as well.

HTH.

Later...

On 2012-01-21, at 2:18 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

Hi Scott,

I have a macbox with lion server which i use for several network services 
including afp over internet, security cameras, ical server, directory services 
, airprint and others.

As a previous snow leopard server user, the integrated server suite isn't as 
comprehensive but if you are just looking to deploy standard services over your 
home network it does the job. It could have some general improvements in the 
interface, and user preferences aren't accessible though you can workaround it 
via the unix shell.

If you do want more advanced control, you definetely need unix knowhow but 
having that in tow makes the server pretty damn powerful.

There are no power management controls yet which is my main gripe, but it seems 
to manage it rather well by default as i have quite a few devices hooked to it 
and they all cycle only when necessary.


Hope this gives you an overview.

Oh wait scott, i know you!!!! Lol


Yuma

On 22/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

All,

I am just curious if anyone has used Lion Server and if they encountered any 
major accessibility issues. I'm not interested in debating if Lion Server is 
better than a Linux box etc. just want to know if there are any major concerns.

thanks,

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