Hey CB, Well actually if I could work with the dynamic addressing issues I could in fact run servers. However, I just for grins tried setting up an account with DYN and never could get a confirmation e-mail, so I seriously do not think I will go this way. I feel if a vendor cannot respond in a reasonable time, then it is time to look elsewhere. For what I want to do, $15 is not a lot and that is what it would cost for an IP. Now I'm not saying DYN is unreliable, but it seems that several attempts to verify the account has failed and that does not build a lot of confidence in the service. :) However, you are right in that folks should always know what their TOS says about servers and the like. As a side note, are folks using anything on their internal machines that are behind an AirPort Extreme router for a firewall or do you find the AirPort does a pretty good job of keeping trouble out.
Thanks, On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > You might also check out the SLA with your service provider. Usually if you > have a consumer connection using DHCP to assign you some random IP address > they have clauses in the contract that say you can't host servers or > somesuch. Around here going with a commercial account from Cox cable was > $30/month more than the consumer stuff, provided a static IP with DNS and no > restrictions on what I do with the bandwidth. In other words, just because > you can work around the technical problems of DHCP address changes with > DynDNS and the like doesn't mean you are allowed to do it. > > CB > > On 1/21/12 9:10 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> Yuma, >> >> Goo point and I have not entirely decided, but seems the extra cost is >> pretty absurd, but it seems the DNS services may work. However, seriously I >> have not made any definite plans yet. At the end of the day I would gladly >> pay the money if I got what I wanted without jumping through endless hoops. >> Nothing like having all your crap broken over some free service and my >> stupidity for trying to save money. :) >> >> THanks, >> >> On Jan 21, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >> >>> Scott, >>> >>> This means you got to forward all vpn ports to the machine via a dynamic >>> ip. It's fine for you to have a domain name but it needs to be constantly >>> updated as your isp will change it anytime it demands for it. SO you either >>> have to find a dynamic ip solution around the web which itself costs money >>> or go for the static ip route, whichever might be most cost effective, but >>> if you actually have a server at home, why not just use the static ip to >>> avoid conflicts or issues of inaccessibility with dunamic ip switching apps? >>> >>> >>> Just a thought >>> >>> Yuma >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> TIm, >>>> >>>> THanks you answered some of the questions I asked, so saves Yuma. :) I did >>>> find the Admin tools, but will have to look for the other tools. >>>> >>>> So, let me explain a bit about what I'm trying to do. I will keep this >>>> pretty short, but essentially I wanted to look at the possibility of >>>> setting up a VPN that I could access using my iOS devices etc. when at a >>>> location with an open WiFI, which of course there are just some things you >>>> would not do in that environment unless you had a VPN. >>>> SO, I heard a podcast where these guys explained how they did this using >>>> Lion Server and DYNDNS.org. However, the problem I had to resolve is >>>> setting up my network so I could access the VPN. Of course this means I >>>> have to get Lion Server, but also means I have to totally reconfigure >>>> things. >>>> I have a SMC gateway from COmcast and apparently the only way I can pull >>>> this off is to move my Time Capsule or AirPort Extreme into the DNZ. SO, >>>> I'd setup my AirPort in the DMZ and move all the machines behind that >>>> APple router which is how I had things setup in the past. This way I can >>>> totally bypass the SMC since I cannot put it in bridge mode unless I want >>>> to spend $15 a month for one static IP and I think not. Then I can use >>>> DYDNS or possibly the one free domain COmcast gives me as a part of my >>>> business-class acount and use that as the means to get back to my network >>>> via the VPN. Oh and the gent who set all this up is a IT security >>>> professional. So, this aut to be quite interesting. ALthough it sounds >>>> like Lion Server might add some other functionality that would be handy >>>> like updating the other Macs in the house instead of me running around >>>> updating stuff by hand. More long-term is the ability to manage iOS >>>> devices and the like as well. >>>> What would be really interesting is if I setup an iCal server and hooked >>>> everyone to that in the house, how that plays with iCloud. Hmmmm, this is >>>> all quite interesting. >>>> >>>> THanks, >>>> >>>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Two things to add to Yuma's useful message. I use Server Admin Tools to >>>>> manage more advanced services than the Server app allows and I've had no >>>>> issues at all with accessibility within Server Admin Tools. For the User >>>>> and Preference Management, I use Work Group Manager (WGM) which, other >>>>> than the User/Group/Computer management is very accessible. The >>>>> Preference Management controls aren't initially visible to VO in WGM but >>>>> I have worked around this for the most part though using mouse keys. >>>>> Once you navigate to the correct spot on the screen using mouse keys, you >>>>> click the mouse button itself or press the "5" key and the preference >>>>> controls become totally accessible. I use Leopard, Snow Leopard and Lion >>>>> server at work/school to manage much of our network. As Yuma mentioned, >>>>> the integrated Server App does the job for basic services but I'm quite >>>>> used to using Server Admin and WGM, which are a free download from Apple, >>>>> that I continue to use them with Lion Server as well. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-01-21, at 2:18 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a macbox with lion server which i use for several network >>>>>> services including afp over internet, security cameras, ical server, >>>>>> directory services , airprint and others. >>>>>> >>>>>> As a previous snow leopard server user, the integrated server suite >>>>>> isn't as comprehensive but if you are just looking to deploy standard >>>>>> services over your home network it does the job. It could have some >>>>>> general improvements in the interface, and user preferences aren't >>>>>> accessible though you can workaround it via the unix shell. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you do want more advanced control, you definetely need unix knowhow >>>>>> but having that in tow makes the server pretty damn powerful. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are no power management controls yet which is my main gripe, but >>>>>> it seems to manage it rather well by default as i have quite a few >>>>>> devices hooked to it and they all cycle only when necessary. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this gives you an overview. >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh wait scott, i know you!!!! Lol >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yuma >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22/01/2012, at 4:52 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am just curious if anyone has used Lion Server and if they >>>>>>> encountered any major accessibility issues. I'm not interested in >>>>>>> debating if Lion Server is better than a Linux box etc. just want to >>>>>>> know if there are any major concerns. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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