Please do get on a rant, mind if I join you? Too skilled? I've heard this myself and I have to say, I'm damn proud of it. On 2013-06-07, at 12:44 PM, Donna Goodin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oh, Krister, don't get me started on this or I'll go on a rant and never get > off. I'll suffice to say that it's happened to me too, and Oh it irks me. > The only reason I'm skillful is because I've worked at it. If you don't want > to work at it that's fine, but then just own it. > Donna > On Jun 7, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Finally someone who sees this my way. >> Christine, i couldn't have said it better myself. The more specialty things >> we get or ask for, the harder it gets for someone who uses say an I-device >> to claim that it works very well for blind and visually impaired persons. >> I've had it that when i have tried to discuss some technical issue with a >> blindness specific gadget in a meaningful way, other blind folks have said >> "Hush you're not representative" meaning i'm too skillful and that ain't no >> joke, it has happened. >> /Krister >> >> 7 jun 2013 kl. 18:13 skrev Christine Grassman <[email protected]>: >> >>> Not just a specialty phone, though: a specialty carrier providing those >>> phones. Such things make equality and equity harder for us; it makes it >>> possible for companies to say, "Well, there's that special company helping >>> the visually impaired, so there is no need for us to make our goods and >>> services accessible. This perpetuates the idea that we require marginalized >>> goods and services as well, which has ramifications for education, >>> employment, recreation, and integration into our communities at every level. >>> Christine >>> >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> We really don't, especially with the out of box accessibility that is >>>> provided by IOS and Android. There's simply no need for specialty phones. >>>> Original message: >>>>> Does anyone know anything about these phones or this project? Seems >>>>> pretty pointless if you want more than just a phone, and the full range >>>>> of experiences available to the sighted on any mobile carrier. Why on >>>>> earth do we need a special phone carrier? Separate and marginalized, >>>>> rather than expecting to be included in available services. >>>> >>>>> Christine >>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/05/odin-mobile-first-mobile-service-provider-for-the-visually-impaired/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
