I got a tiny application. Just a thread. Here is the link. Let me try if it
works, here is the link:
http://pune.cdac.in/html/gist/down/download.asp?id=DebianLismEval.tar.gz

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Thomas Vazhappilly
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear Mahesh Aravind,
>
> Thanks for your detailed reply.
>
> Let me clarify about my requirement. Let me simplify it a little more.
>
> 1. I do not know the steps to display/edit some characters in Gnu/Linux
> systems which I can easily display/edit in Microsoft Windows. I am a
> GNU/Linux supporter and user for more than 6 years. Due to this ignorance in
> this area, I am not able to completely be unplugged from MS Windows. If I
> can get a clear know-how about this, I will get a clear exit from Windows.
> It is my requirement.
>
> > I humbly request you to *STOP* referring to ASCII. Maybe you might want
> to use an alternate term like "Plain text" file or something:
> Agreed.
> 2. To be specific, I am talking about the characters based on Indian
> Script FOnt Code (INSFOC) which is generally described as ASCII fonts.
> More read at: http://tdil.mit.gov.in/insfoc.pdf
>
>
> >LOL ^^ (I wonder HOW one would create "ASCII" "Malayalam" files using
> PM... but
> anyway
> 3. There are many editors for encoding INSFOC characters like ISM2000
> ISFOC Script Manager, LEAP etc. What I meant, I do not depend any such
> editors. In stead I encode it directly to any editing programs such as
> PM/OO.o or even Notepad.exe
>
>
> >All GNU/Linux systems support almost all character sets _including_ ASCII.
> You don't necessarily have to need ASCII to use Sribus or LaTeX or whatever.
> 4. Just tell me how to do that. That is my question. I mean how to
> display/input INSFOC characters.
>
> >Looks to me like a font problem.  Are they Unicode fonts?
> 5. It is not the font problem. In the screenshot image, I've clearly
> written what is the ASCII (INSFOC) font and Unicode font. The problem font
> is ISFOC font.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam_script)
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Mahesh Aravind <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Buddy,
>>
>> >I have been searching for a method to input/display ASCII encoded
>> Malayalam text
>> >
>> >in my GNU/Linux system.
>>
>> You gotta get a lot of things straight.
>>
>> 1) You *CANNOT* encode Malayalam in ASCII:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding
>> 2) ASCII doesn't support anything other than basic Latin:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII
>> 3) Crude methods like ISCII are _obsolete_:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Script_Code_for_Information_Interchange
>> 4) Unicode rules: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10646
>>
>> >
>> >I created loads of such ASCII Malayalam files with Adobe Pagemaker 6.5
>> and
>> >Pagemaker 7.0 in Microsoft Windows for my official purpose. I am not
>> using any
>>
>> LOL ^^ (I wonder HOW one would create "ASCII" "Malayalam" files using
>> PM... but
>> anyway
>>
>> >third-party Malayalam editors like ISM Gist or Sreelipi etc. Instead, I
>> can
>> >remember most of the ASCII Key codes assigned to all Malayalam letters.
>>
>> Maybe you're trying to *display* Malayalam text in your console/terminal.
>>
>> >
>> >To switch into Gnu/Linux completely, I need a solution about this ASCII
>> texts.
>>
>> I humbly request you to *STOP* referring to ASCII. Maybe you might want to
>> use
>> an alternate term like "Plain text" file or something:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_text
>>
>> >If any GNU/Linux system supports ASCII files to input and display, I
>> think I can
>> >
>> >use Scribus or LaTex to key-in and lay-out.
>>
>> All GNU/Linux systems support almost all character sets _including_ ASCII.
>> You
>> don't necessarily have to need ASCII to use Sribus or LaTeX or whatever.
>>
>> >
>> >Look the following screenshot. I took the screenshot from OpenOffice Word
>> >Processor in UBUNTU 10.04. Some Koottaksharangalare not displaying
>> properly. But
>> >
>> >some displays well.
>>
>> Looks to me like a font problem.  Are they Unicode fonts?
>>
>> >
>> >But I am not able to input any Koottaksharangal.
>> >
>>
>> You can't. The glyphs are auto generated in complex scripts like
>> Malayalam.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam_script
>>
>> >Eg:- To input the character "ksha" you need to hold down "alt" key and
>> then
>> >press 0163 calculater keys, and when you release the "alt" key "ksha"
>> will
>> >appear. But instead of "ksha", here in UBUNTU the following character
>> displays
>> >"ΔΆ"
>>
>> I sincerely believe you got this "wrong habit" from Windoze Charmap where
>> you
>> hold down alt, and press number to see a character. Points to be
>> clarified:
>>
>> 1) Windoze uses brain-dead ANSI charset (Windows-1252 for the uninitiated)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1252
>> 2) GNU/Linux (mostly) prefers/uses/advocates Unicode
>>
>> The codepage in this case U+0163 is not in Malayalam range in UCS
>> encoding;
>> 0D00-0D7F is the Malayalam codepage range.
>>
>> >
>> >Can  anybody help me to fix this? Is there any remedy to key-in ASCII
>> text  in
>> >Gnu/Linux. Even if ASCII is an obsolete method, there may be a  provision
>> for it
>> >
>> >in GNU System, I hope!
>>
>> There is no fix. Folks correct me if I'm wrong here.
>>
>> You are trying to find a solution to a problem that is not a problem at
>> all in
>> the first place.
>>
>> Do read, try to understand what you're dealing with. You need to input
>> complex
>> characters in OOo. That's automatically taken care of by the rendering
>> engine:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_scripts
>>
>> Happy Hacking,
>> Mahesh Aravind
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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