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All this demagogy about old white men telling young people of color not to confront fascists is simply a lie. Clay and I among others have made clear it's a question of how and where to confront them (and that we personally HAVE confronted racists and fascists. We NEVER said 5 miles away, Einde. It's a question of do you fight them inside their meetings, or instead outside our institutions, meeting places, picket lines, etc., when they attack. If any of you would read the documents I've posted here and on facebook you'll see I'm promoting a proud heritage of beating fascists until they're in the hospital and their ranks drift away out of fear. Being able to do so means not friterring away your advantage in propaganda stance and personnel in adventurist stupidities. And I guarantee you half of those saying Trump must be denied a platform will be backing Clinton soon. On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Einde O'Callaghan via Marxism < [email protected]> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On 14.03.2016 17:13, Manuel Barrera via Marxism wrote: > >> In reply to Clayborne and others who seem to think they "know" what and >> how Black and Brown youth "should" be doing about this racist Trump >> campaign (from my reply to Partido on Facebook): >> >> The Marxmail discussion is an exercise in theoretical posturing: >> essentially, old people telling young people that they should've had more >> "leadership" and, then from there, nothing. The implication is that somehow >> the young black and brown activists along with the well-established >> coalition-building left in Chicago should have not fallen into a trap >> > The debates here are nothing new. I remember hearing arguments like this > before from "older" or "more experienced" "activists" when we were > campaigning against the National Front in Britain in the mid-1970s. Both > before and after we - then young activists (brought together to a certain > extent by the British SWP) - confronted and stopped the NF in Lewisham, we > were denounced for being "red fascists" and "thoughtless street fighters" > by many (not all) left Labourists and the Communist Party. We should have > shown our disgust by meeting 5 miles away and marching in the otehr > direction. Instead we confronted them and stopped them. After that, partly > through the Anti-Nazi League we built on a combination of mass > mobilisations (and sometimes militant confrontations) and mass agitation > and education. And we eventually killed the NF stone dead. > > If we'd listened to the "experienced old hands", we wouldn't have done it > and the far right would have established much deeper roots in British > society than they've been able to do since. > > What I hear are tired old men preaching what is essentially pacifist > reformism from the sidelines. I can only say that I was thrilled to see > what the young (and not so young) comrades pulled off in Chicago. > > Einde O'Callaghan > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
