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On 3/15/2016 10:51 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:
Nonsense. I can recognize when people are repeating themselves. If there is anything I have learned after moderating Marxmail for 18 years on May first, it is that.
You certainly do. Every time you write a blog you post it here twice, once in rich html format, only you can post rich format to Marxmail, and once in plain text, like the rest of us. But that doesn't bother me. People repeat themselves all the time on Marxmail and you rarely point it out. I think Manuel was right that you chimed in with that critique this time to shutdown a thread in which there was apparently great interest because it enjoyed something like 20 contributions before your dismissive one word contribution signaling that it should end.

In point of fact, I think you and Kevin were wrong. I may have repeated my assertion that Trump setup the confrontation in the face of charges that I was bashing the protesters, but the subject of both paragraphs in that post was localism - and that certainly wasn't repetitive in this discussion, it was taking it in a new direction.

So I think Manuel was right that it was an example of while chauvinism and a rather crass effort to shut down this thread. That bothers me.

But what really bothers me the most is that you have dismissed Manuel's extremely important point 'about the "Whiteness" of these kinds of discussions' by calling it "Nonsense."

Given our position in the class structure and our relationship to imperialism as national minorities, its not surprising to find that people of color are, on the whole, more class conscious and more in favor of progressive revolutionary change than their white brothers and sisters. That's just they way it is in my experience. By the same token, one should expect us to be over represented, as compared to our percentage in the population, in Left organizations.

Clearly we are not, but I predict there will never be a revolution in the US until we are.

And why is the Left in this country so dominated by white activists that it can be fairly called the white Left? The answer is white chauvinism in the Left. Now someone dares to raise this issue on this list and your response is "Nonsense?"

Houston, we have a problem here.

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