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Clinton is both a neoliberal (more inequality) and a neocon (more war); Trump isn’t: <https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/20/trump-as-the-relative-peace-candidate/ <https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/20/trump-as-the-relative-peace-candidate/>>. > On Aug 31, 2016, at 7:58 PM, A.R. G <[email protected]> wrote: > > How are we less likely to get war from Trump? Trump has discussed actually > using nuclear weapons. He wants to bring back torture -- and he doesn't even > have any qualms about calling it torture, unlike his Republican colleagues > who purposely used euphemisms like "enhanced interrogation techniques" to > avoid incriminating themselves. He floated sending tens of thousands of > troops to fight in Syria, albeit on the side of the regime. He has threatened > to tear up the diplomatic agreement between the US and Iran, and he wants to > all abut reward the entirety of the West Bank to the Israeli occupiers. He's > also pledged more drones. > > The CIA and the Pentagon oppose him for obvious reasons: he is a lunatic. > There is a difference between not being pro-war and being so pro-war that the > other pro-war institutions are afraid you will do it without any strategy. > > - Amith > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the tradition of > the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How can that be a > difficult choice? > > “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have demanded > he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather from its > relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. Something > is up. These tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the > multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains its > dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with > China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great power > talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were the > issues not so dire.” [John Pilger] > > —CGE > > > > On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Trump is farther right than the usual Republican. Clinton is way further > > right than the usual Democrat. But why waste time dickering over the > > calipers. > > > > If Jill Stein wasn't there, I would still vote against both of them. Maybe > > I'd even vote for for the Skippy McTrotly on the Vegetarian Bolshevik > > Alliance. > > > > But not voting at all is better than using your ballot to sanction the next > > temporary monarch of the U.S. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.marxmail.org_sub.htm&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=9Jqms3ylu4sCImjNAi5oJbwicRJ-4A4_CmmWC-fYsSw&s=bG5LZVPGx25qOEhKzVPwaF8ibcOGAXSyaVVEemHd1eE&e=> > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.csbs.utah.edu_options_marxism_amithrgupta-2540gmail.com&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=9Jqms3ylu4sCImjNAi5oJbwicRJ-4A4_CmmWC-fYsSw&s=aqSYIp4ir3XmDj5sYpLdddus3c44ihgYMTO-r1HHTrQ&e=> _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
