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Like I said, we can expect to hear more pro-Trump voices on the white Left. Even on Marxist lists. How sad. I'm listening to another one of his racist titrates now as I write this now. But , hey, if I was white maybe it wouldn't bother me either. Clay Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust <http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com> Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach <http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/> <http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Clinton is both a neoliberal (more inequality) and a neocon (more war); > Trump isn’t: > > <https://consortiumnews.com/2016/06/20/trump-as-the- > relative-peace-candidate/ <https://consortiumnews.com/ > 2016/06/20/trump-as-the-relative-peace-candidate/>>. > > > > On Aug 31, 2016, at 7:58 PM, A.R. G <amithrgu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > How are we less likely to get war from Trump? Trump has discussed > actually using nuclear weapons. He wants to bring back torture -- and he > doesn't even have any qualms about calling it torture, unlike his > Republican colleagues who purposely used euphemisms like "enhanced > interrogation techniques" to avoid incriminating themselves. He floated > sending tens of thousands of troops to fight in Syria, albeit on the side > of the regime. He has threatened to tear up the diplomatic agreement > between the US and Iran, and he wants to all abut reward the entirety of > the West Bank to the Israeli occupiers. He's also pledged more drones. > > > > The CIA and the Pentagon oppose him for obvious reasons: he is a > lunatic. There is a difference between not being pro-war and being so > pro-war that the other pro-war institutions are afraid you will do it > without any strategy. > > > > - Amith > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu <mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> wrote: > > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > ***************************************************************** > > > > With Clinton as president, we're certain to get more war, in the > tradition of the last 25 years. With Trump as president, we might not. How > can that be a difficult choice? > > > > “The CIA has demanded Trump is not elected. Pentagon generals have > demanded he is not elected. The pro-war New York Times - taking a breather > from its relentless low-rent Putin smears - demands that he is not elected. > Something is up. These tribunes of 'perpetual war' are terrified that the > multi-billion-dollar business of war by which the United States maintains > its dominance will be undermined if Trump does a deal with Putin, then with > China's Xi Jinping. Their panic at the possibility of the world's great > power talking peace - however unlikely - would be the blackest farce were > the issues not so dire.” [John Pilger] > > > > —CGE > > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu <mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> wrote: > > > > > > Trump is farther right than the usual Republican. Clinton is way > further > > > right than the usual Democrat. But why waste time dickering over the > > > calipers. > > > > > > If Jill Stein wasn't there, I would still vote against both of them. > Maybe > > > I'd even vote for for the Skippy McTrotly on the Vegetarian Bolshevik > > > Alliance. > > > > > > But not voting at all is better than using your ballot to sanction the > next > > > temporary monarch of the U.S. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm < > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- > 3A__www.marxmail.org_sub.htm&d=CwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r= > tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m=9Jqms3ylu4sCImjNAi5oJbwicRJ- > 4A4_CmmWC-fYsSw&s=bG5LZVPGx25qOEhKzVPwaF8ibcOGAXSyaVVEemHd1eE&e=> > > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/ > options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com <https://urldefense. > proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.csbs.utah.edu_ > options_marxism_amithrgupta-2540gmail.com&d=CwMFaQ&c= > 8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=tfHzwZBcTLEveiewRiq0OdhFmfRmlvZjpIBS0AUJ2v0&m= > 9Jqms3ylu4sCImjNAi5oJbwicRJ-4A4_CmmWC-fYsSw&s= > aqSYIp4ir3XmDj5sYpLdddus3c44ihgYMTO-r1HHTrQ&e=> > > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/clayclai% > 40gmail.com > _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
