So, the only difference between the two cases are the voltage constraints at 
the slack bus? If so, I would expect the losses (and therefore the generation) 
to be greater in the case with the lower voltage.

-- 
Ray Zimmerman
Senior Research Associate
419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
phone: (607) 255-9645




On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Silvio Miceli wrote:

> Practically I don't have OLTC. According to your comments to my posts: "1) 
> Exclude bus GSP and the OLTC from the model and let Tx be the slack bus with 
> a dummy generator and VMIN = VMAX = 1.078." So, when I compare the results 
> considering OLTC, i.e. constraints of voltage at the slack bus , and without 
> any constraint, i.e. Vmax=Vmin=1.06. In my idea, in the case with OLTC and 
> lower and limits the capacity should be higher that without constraint? Am I 
> right?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Silvio
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 17:16, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's probably due to a difference in losses. There may be losses in the OLTC 
> itself depending on the parameters and if the voltage profile is different 
> the losses in the rest of the network will be different as well.
> 
> -- 
> Ray Zimmerman
> Senior Research Associate
> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
> phone: (607) 255-9645
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:00 AM, Silvio Miceli wrote:
> 
>> Dear Ray,
>> 
>> As far as I know when we have an OLTC, the generated capacity is more than 
>> that in the case without OLTC (i.e. Vmin=Vmax=1.06 p.u.). When I running an 
>> OPF or runmarket, for example in the case57, I get more generated capacity 
>> in the case without OLTC compared to with OLTC.
>>  
>> Best Wishes
>> 
>> Silvio
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 16:09, Silvio Miceli <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thank you so much for your helpful comments.
>> 
>> Best Wishes
>> 
>> Silvio Miceli
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 15:27, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't know what you mean by the first solution with and without the OLTC. 
>> In the first solution, I am assuming that the OLTC maintains the voltage at 
>> Tx at your target, so it is not in the model. I suppose if by "without OLTC" 
>> you mean that the OLTC is not keeping the voltage at the target, then you 
>> can simply set the VMIN and VMAX to 1.0 p.u.  Or you could use the setup for 
>> the 2nd option, and simply run it once with the taps at the nominal setting.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ray Zimmerman
>> Senior Research Associate
>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Silvio Miceli wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Prof. Zimmerman,
>>> 
>>> I want to use first solution. It is much more easier than the second one. 
>>> In this case, how can I compare the results with and without OLTC?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> S.M.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 15:07, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> So it seems you could model it two different ways in MATPOWER.
>>> 
>>> 1) Exclude bus GSP and the OLTC from the model and let Tx be the slack bus 
>>> with a dummy generator and VMIN = VMAX = 1.078.
>>> 2) Include GSP and the OLTC, with a dummy generator at GSP (the slack bus), 
>>> with VMIN = VMAX = 1.0. In this case, you would have to iteratively run the 
>>> OPF, then update the tap setting until the voltage at Tx is close enough to 
>>> your target. I suppose you could use VMIN = VMAX = 1.078 at Tx and then 
>>> adjust the tap ratio until you get a feasible solution. You may need to 
>>> leave a small epsilon difference between VMIN and VMAX at GSP or Tx in 
>>> order to get feasibility. 
>>> 
>>> I expect the results for the rest of the system to be (at least nearly) 
>>> identical in the two cases.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Ray Zimmerman
>>> Senior Research Associate
>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Silvio Miceli wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The information of the network is as follows: 
>>>> 
>>>> The one-line diagram of a typical rural section of the Irish 38-kV 
>>>> distribution network  was shown in above Figure. The feeders are supplied 
>>>> by one 31.5-MVA 110/38-kV transformer (capable of handling reverse power 
>>>> flows). The voltage at the grid supply point is assumed to be nominal. In 
>>>> the original configuration (no DG), the on-load tap changer at the 
>>>> substation has a target voltage of 1.078 pu (41 kV) at the busbar, well 
>>>> within the +-10% nominal voltage limits of Irish practice.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Wishes
>>>> 
>>>> Silvio Miceli
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 23:07, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> You haven't said which bus is your slack bus. Can I assume that it would 
>>>> be the one labeled GSP? I don't see a slack generator at that bus. Is the 
>>>> OLTC the *only* voltage control you have in the network? Is the voltage at 
>>>> GSP fixed?
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ray Zimmerman
>>>> Senior Research Associate
>>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Silvio Miceli wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I want to have an OLTC at slack bus only in order to control centrally 
>>>>> the network voltage (active network) as below figure. How can I compare 
>>>>> the results with and without OLTC? with changing tap ratio or with 
>>>>> changing voltage setpoints?
>>>>> 
>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Silvio Miceli
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 20:43, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> In order to understand clearly what you are trying to compare, I would 
>>>>> need to see the network topology.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But, it both cases include the OLTC in the topology and in one case you 
>>>>> are modifying the tap ratio to control voltage and in the other you are 
>>>>> simply modifying the generator voltage setpoints, then the two solutions 
>>>>> will not be equivalent.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Ray Zimmerman
>>>>> Senior Research Associate
>>>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Silvio Miceli wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Ray,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As far as I know, taking into account the voltage at slack bus as 
>>>>>> optimization variable is equal to have an OLTC. So, how can I compare 
>>>>>> the results with and without voltage control at slack? Can it be done 
>>>>>> either by changing the tap ratio or voltage limits? 
>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Silvio Miceli
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 18:57, Silvio Miceli <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Ray,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Can I say MATPOWER's OPF considers the power factor angle of 
>>>>>> generators as optimization variable? If not, how can I consider as 
>>>>>> optimization variable?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. Also, according to one of your replies to a post with regards to 
>>>>>> considering the slack bus voltage as optimization variable, why you want 
>>>>>> to implement OLTC in MATPOWER? In my idea, considering the slack bus as 
>>>>>> optimization variable is equal to have an OLTC and consequently 
>>>>>> considering the secondary voltage as optimization variable. Because 
>>>>>> usually the OLTC is used in order to control the voltage of slack bus 
>>>>>> and in MATPOWER is already considered as optimization variable. If I am 
>>>>>> not right, please let me know?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Silvio 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 17:47, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Silvio Miceli wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. What kind of generator has been taken into account in MATPOWER in 
>>>>>>> Section 5.4.3 of MANUAL in order to consider the capability curve?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is simply intended to be a piecewise linear approximation to the kind 
>>>>>> of capability curve exhibited by many types of conventional generators, 
>>>>>> such as this one from Figure 2 in [1].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. I want to minimize losses instead of maximizing social welfare 
>>>>>>> considering offers and bids. How can I do it in MATPOWER?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The answer to this one is readily available in the list archives ... 
>>>>>> e.g. 
>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00817.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3. How can I maximize profit for generators in MATPOWER instead of 
>>>>>>> maximizing Social welfare?
>>>>>>> Also, by which formula I can obtain profits (for generators), revenue 
>>>>>>> and cost in MATPOWER? Could you please address it? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not aware of a method to maximize profits, since that would involve 
>>>>>> an objective that is a function of price, a very unconventional type of 
>>>>>> optimization problem. You can compute revenue directly as the product of 
>>>>>> quantity and price, and the cost is available in the dispatch matrix 
>>>>>> returned by runmarket. See help idx_disp for a description of each 
>>>>>> column of the dispatch matrix.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   - Ray
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>> http://www.hydroworld.com/index/display/article-display/353952/articles/hydro-review/volume-28/issue-2/feature-articles/system-protection/coordinating-generator-protection-and-controls-an-overview.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Ray Zimmerman
>>>>>> Senior Research Associate
>>>>>> 419A Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
>>>>>> phone: (607) 255-9645
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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