I include Bingwei as the representative of sysdebug effort and he could elaborate how it is being used. If you are not happy about how the field is added, I heard you guys had a good talk and agreement during MeeGo conference to get agreement about the process of doing code level change for bugzilla, which will be rolled out soon, and I believe the communication effectiveness and transparency will be greatly improved. Specific for this field, the reality is it already has its customer. Let's stop the argument like "I think it's useful" and "I think it's not useful" as it will never reach any conclusion, and see what the real need is behind this field. If anyone have a more elegant solution after analyzing the requirement, propose it here and we can discuss and go with it if it's more reasonable. To me, the field is necessary, as in a big project like MeeGo, sysdebug is an equally important job as bug fixing. People could volunteer to do sysdebug for bugs by putting their name there, and we could generate indicators about top sysdebug contributors to make their contribution visible, and it's also clear to bug original assignee to find the sysdebug person to syncup. Changing bug assignee back and forth would 1) cause mistakes if somebody forgot to change it. 2) cause confusion for the bug assignee. 3) make it difficult to track the bugs which have been sysdebugged but not accepted by bug assignee and need further look. 4) make sysdebug indicators generation impossible.
Thanks, Fan -----Original Message----- From: meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext-iekku.huttu...@nokia.com Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 3:42 PM To: aklap...@openismus.com; Zheng, Yanshuang Cc: meego...@meego.com Subject: Re: [Meego-qa] "Triaged By" field? Hi, Once again there has been mentioned "need-triage" keyword. >> > Yanshuang: I thought we have discussed about keyword "need-triage" >in >> > this mail list, and that's why we now have those as you saw at >> > http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/SysDebug. I agree with need of the keyword, but that one isn't in the keyword list. Also, I can't find documentation of the usage for it. Is there any? What comes to Triaged By - field, I don't find it useful. Br, Iekku >-----Original Message----- >From: meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-qa- >boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Andre Klapper >Sent: 30 May, 2011 10:21 >To: Zheng, Yanshuang >Cc: meego...@meego.com >Subject: Re: [Meego-qa] "Triaged By" field? > >Hi Yanshuang, so can you please answer my questions, especially where >exactly the introduction of the field "Triaged by" was exactly >discussed? > >andre > > >On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 22:12 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: >> Hi Yanshuang, >> >> On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 13:45 +0800, Zheng, Yanshuang wrote: >> > thanks for the link. So the only reference I find on the wikipage is >> > the sentence "The one who debugs it can take credits by typing >his/her >> > account on “Triaged by” field." >> > >> > >> > >> > Yanshuang: Yeah, it explains. We need a field to track who did the >> > system debug, not only appreciate his/her contribution, but also for >> > further discussion with him/her and some statistics. >> >> Why exactly is the History (show_activity.cgi) plus a free form >comment >> (which is needed ANYWAY, as the results of complex triaging and >> reassigning need to be elaborated) not sufficient enough? >> >> > So whose idea was this, where was this idea discussed, how was it >> > decided to add this field? >> > >> > Yanshuang: I thought we have discussed about keyword "need-triage" >in >> > this mail list, and that's why we now have those as you saw at >> > http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/SysDebug. >> >> Yes, we discussed the keyword. But my question was about where exactly >> the introduction of the field "Triaged by" was exactly discussed. >> >> > I prefer a "Keep it simple and stupid" approach, but I see an ever >> > increasing amount of new fields and flags added to show_bug.cgi >> > without any discussion about its usefulness (but maybe I miss the >> > places where these discussions take place?). >> > >> > Yanshuang: I like "Keep it simple and stupid" too, but thing is not >> > always perfect as our project goes larger and further... >> >> I have problems to spot an actual argumentation in that sentence. :) >> >> So how exactly do you plan to avoid an ever increasing Bugzilla >> interface complexity due to "our project goes larger and >> further" (whatever that phrase actually means, plus it applies to ANY >> random software project out there anyway, so it's meaningless)? >> >> Thanks in advance for explaining. >> >> andre >> > >-- >Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) >http://www.openismus.com > >_______________________________________________ >MeeGo-qa mailing list >MeeGo-qa@lists.meego.com >http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-qa _______________________________________________ MeeGo-qa mailing list MeeGo-qa@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-qa _______________________________________________ MeeGo-qa mailing list MeeGo-qa@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-qa
