Brad and list,

On the subject of bore flex in alloy blocks.

Does anyone know about how the variables of cylinder wall thickness, bore
size and stroke effect block integrity.

1. I sort of understand the basics ie the thicker the cylinder wall then the
stronger. 
2. I'm not sure on how bore size relates to this. ie if bore size is
increased in diameter and cylinder wall stays the same then is the strength
decreased?
3. Obviously if you increase the stroke while keeping cylinder wall
thickness the same then there would be more flex. 

Any technical guru's out there know the maths to determine whether an engine
can survive a certain rpm/HP if all the dimensions and material properties
are known?

Thanks
Trev

P.S. I should of studied material science and engineering at uni.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Hallett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 15:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power


Yes it is a dud story.  FJ24 was the original beast, specifically built
for rallying.

If they built an FJ40DET I am ure we would all have thir pics on our
desktop :-)

Interesting that it was mentioned JUN use sleeves in the SR to get big
HP.  You are nuts if you try and get 400+ out of any aluminium block
without bore and sleeve work.  The beauty of sleeves is you can reduce
bore flex at 8000+RPM by going thicker (at the expense of reducing
cooling efficiency of course)

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 1:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power


*groan* I've heard that urban myth a few times. Stupid fast fours
misprint will 
haunt the FJ forever.


> the story i have heard is that the fj was originaly an fj40det 
> designed for
use in formula
one back in the days of turbos. but when turbos were banned they reduced
the 
capacity and
detuned them and started to mass produce them
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rowe, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 1:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power
> 
> 
> 
> The CA18s are a 4cyl version of the RB's.  They were one of the better

> motors
nissan made,
but due the number of moving parts they were more costly so they moved
to the 
SR20.  The
FJ's are twin cam 16 valve and were originally a racing/rally motor and
I think 
were the
toughest motor Nissan ever made.
> 
>       -----Original Message----- 
> From:   James Marmont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent:   05/12/2001 12:36 
> To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
> Subject:        RE: FJ20 - max power 
> 
>       i have heard fjs have more potential, but arent they either
twincam 8
valve or singlecam
12 valve(not sure which) 
> i know srs are a "square" engine, meaning they have(from memory) 83mm 
> bore
and 83mm stroke
also even the naturally aspirated ones have a solid forged crank
> 
>       these two points alone make them a great engine, but every one
whos
owned one would know
that 
> fjs are supposed to be pretty good too, i just dont know as much about

> them
> does anyone know whats supposed to be so great about ca18dets? besides
being 
a nissan 
> 





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