yeah Terry thats the history of the FJ24, I was thinking of squashing these
'FJ15' rumours with proof that the FJ20 itself existed way before the F1
1.5l turbos did themselves. And as you are the co-resident F1 expert I was
looking to you for verification :)
cheers

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power


> Zac,
>
> The FJ24DE was developed for the WRC 240RS - afaik this story is correct.
> WRC rules changed after Nissan had spent trillions of Yen developing the
> engine so to recoup some of the cost they detuned it, then turboed it and
> stuck it in a Sylvia S110 (Gazelle) and it developed a cult following in
> Japan. Then they intercooled it with a lunch box and stuck it in a Skyline
> as it was eligible to race in Group C which was a world wide formula at
that
> time (remember Sierra's and the like racing at Bathurst.)
>
> I'm a bit sceptical about the claims that they developed a 1.5 litre
version
> of the FJ. It was reported that there was a clear intention to enter into
> Formula 1 and Indy (IRL) but I think reality struck and they just couldn't
> do it all at once - they had a commitment to the Sports Car Le Mans series
> happening also. Honda was unable to sustain more than 2 of the top
> categories at once so they dropped out of F1 before they got started.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 2:47 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power
>
>
> all of what James said.
> Brad H added what I didn't feel like writing, that the FJ24 was developed
> for
> rally in the 240RS (james didn't say it was developed for rally).
>
> I have the original bogus quote in the magazine at home. They claimed it
was
> developed as a 1.5 litre as they were the turbo F1 engines at the time.
> Which
> makes me think, the FJ was out few years before F1 started using turbo
1.5l
> engines. Terry can you confirm this?
>
>
>
> > Zac,
> > Which part are you saying was the misprint?  The FJ40DET or the fact
> > that it was developed for F1 and rally.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Marmont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 05/12/2001 14:18
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power
> > >
> > > i dont read fast fours.
> > > like i said i dont know much about them, just repeating what i heard
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 2:59 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power
> > >
> > >
> > > *groan* I've heard that urban myth a few times. Stupid fast fours
> misprint
> > > will
> > > haunt the FJ forever.
> > >
> > >
> > > > the story i have heard is that the fj was originaly an fj40det
> designed
> > > for
> > > use in formula
> > > one back in the days of turbos. but when turbos were banned they
reduced
> > > the
> > > capacity and
> > > detuned them and started to mass produce them
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rowe, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 1:53 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: FJ20 - max power
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The CA18s are a 4cyl version of the RB's.  They were one of the
better
> > > motors
> > > nissan made,
> > > but due the number of moving parts they were more costly so they moved
> to
> > > the
> > > SR20.  The
> > > FJ's are twin cam 16 valve and were originally a racing/rally motor
and
> I
> > > think
> > > were the
> > > toughest motor Nissan ever made.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:   James Marmont [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent:   05/12/2001 12:36
> > > > To:     '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject:        RE: FJ20 - max power
> > > >
> > > > i have heard fjs have more potential, but arent they either twincam
> > > 8
> > > valve or singlecam
> > > 12 valve(not sure which)
> > > > i know srs are a "square" engine, meaning they have(from memory)
83mm
> > > bore
> > > and 83mm stroke
> > > also even the naturally aspirated ones have a solid forged crank
> > > >
> > > > these two points alone make them a great engine, but every one whos
> > > owned one would know
> > > that
> > > > fjs are supposed to be pretty good too, i just dont know as much
about
> > > them
> > > > does anyone know whats supposed to be so great about ca18dets?
besides
> > > being
> > > a nissan
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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